Best-selling journalist Antony Loewenstein trav­els across Afghanistan, Pakistan, Haiti, Papua New Guinea, the United States, Britain, Greece, and Australia to witness the reality of disaster capitalism. He discovers how companies such as G4S, Serco, and Halliburton cash in on or­ganized misery in a hidden world of privatized detention centers, militarized private security, aid profiteering, and destructive mining.

Disaster has become big business. Talking to immigrants stuck in limbo in Britain or visiting immigration centers in America, Loewenstein maps the secret networks formed to help cor­porations bleed what profits they can from economic crisis. He debates with Western contractors in Afghanistan, meets the locals in post-earthquake Haiti, and in Greece finds a country at the mercy of vulture profiteers. In Papua New Guinea, he sees a local commu­nity forced to rebel against predatory resource companies and NGOs.

What emerges through Loewenstein’s re­porting is a dark history of multinational corpo­rations that, with the aid of media and political elites, have grown more powerful than national governments. In the twenty-first century, the vulnerable have become the world’s most valu­able commodity. Disaster Capitalism is published by Verso in 2015 and in paperback in January 2017.

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After Zionism, published in 2012 and 2013 with co-editor Ahmed Moor, brings together some of the world s leading thinkers on the Middle East question to dissect the century-long conflict between Zionism and the Palestinians, and to explore possible forms of a one-state solution. Time has run out for the two-state solution because of the unending and permanent Jewish colonization of Palestinian land. Although deep mistrust exists on both sides of the conflict, growing numbers of Palestinians and Israelis, Jews and Arabs are working together to forge a different, unified future. Progressive and realist ideas are at last gaining a foothold in the discourse, while those influenced by the colonial era have been discredited or abandoned. Whatever the political solution may be, Palestinian and Israeli lives are intertwined, enmeshed, irrevocably. This daring and timely collection includes essays by Omar Barghouti, Jonathan Cook, Joseph Dana, Jeremiah Haber, Jeff Halper, Ghada Karmi, Antony Loewenstein, Saree Makdisi, John Mearsheimer, Ahmed Moor, Ilan Pappe, Sara Roy and Phil Weiss.
The 2008 financial crisis opened the door for a bold, progressive social movement. But despite widespread revulsion at economic inequity and political opportunism, after the crash very little has changed. Has the Left failed? What agenda should progressives pursue? And what alternatives do they dare to imagine? Left Turn, published by Melbourne University Press in 2012 and co-edited with Jeff Sparrow, is aimed at the many Australians disillusioned with the political process. It includes passionate and challenging contributions by a diverse range of writers, thinkers and politicians, from Larissa Berendht and Christos Tsiolkas to Guy Rundle and Lee Rhiannon. These essays offer perspectives largely excluded from the mainstream. They offer possibilities for resistance and for a renewed struggle for change.
The Blogging Revolution, released by Melbourne University Press in 2008, is a colourful and revelatory account of bloggers around the globe why live and write under repressive regimes - many of them risking their lives in doing so. Antony Loewenstein's travels take him to private parties in Iran and Egypt, internet cafes in Saudi Arabia and Damascus, to the homes of Cuban dissidents and into newspaper offices in Beijing, where he discovers the ways in which the internet is threatening the ruld of governments. Through first-hand investigations, he reveals the complicity of Western multinationals in assisting the restriction of information in these countries and how bloggers are leading the charge for change. The blogging revolution is a superb examination about the nature of repression in the twenty-first century and the power of brave individuals to overcome it. It was released in an updated edition in 2011, post the Arab revolutions, and an updated Indian print version in 2011.
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News bytes

– “Liberals” used to overlook Israel’s crimes, argues writer Geoffrey Wheatcroft. Not any more.

– The New York Times reveals a British memo detailing pre-Iraq war discussions between Blair and Bush. When Blair told the Australian Parliament today that “we need you“, an appropriate response would have been to deport the British Prime Minister and tell him never to come here again.

– Some Zionists believe that Jews have the right to occupy the Palestinians indefinitely. They won’t be so arrogant when, as is likely in the coming years, sanctions are slapped on Israel. Some Jews in the US, meanwhile, are also opposed to any Israeli withdrawal from the occupied territories. United Front for the Land of Israel founder Susan Roth explains:

Olmert’s withdrawal would be a victory for worldwide Islamic terror. It would result in the formation of an al-Qaeda/Islamic Jihad/Iranian-satellite state that would serve as a sanctuary for all kinds of terrorists. The withdrawal would be disastrous for America’s war on terror, for Israel and for the Jewish people.

She’s right, of course. Maintaining the occupation will do wonders for the reputations of Israel and the US.

– A fascinating insight into Thailand’s democratic woes.

– The Guardian reports that Sri Lankan Tamils in the UK are being intimidated by rebel groups looking to fund their cause.

– What happened to the Milosevic directed “genocide“?

– US Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is a perfect representative for the Bush administration. He recently spoke at a university in Switzerland and argued that detainees captured by the US have no rights. Newsweek explains:

“War is war, and it has never been the case that when you captured a combatant you have to give them a jury trial in your civil courts,” he says on a tape of the talk reviewed by NEWSWEEK. “Give me a break.” Challenged by one audience member about whether the Gitmo detainees don’t have protections under the Geneva or human-rights conventions, Scalia shot back: “If he was captured by my army on a battlefield, that is where he belongs. I had a son on that battlefield and they were shooting at my son and I’m not about to give this man who was captured in a war a full jury trial. I mean it’s crazy.” Scalia was apparently referring to his son Matthew, who served with the U.S. Army in Iraq. Scalia did say, though, that he was concerned “there may be no end to this war.”.

Scalia and Australian Zionists are like two peas in a pod. As US influence starts to wane around the world, we can look forward to a day when the current superpower no longer operates under its own rules. That day may be closer than we think.

35 comments ↪
  • Chris

    Why stop at what happened in Lebanon just a few short years ago? You wish to go through the entire litinay of the continuous, unceasing tales of Arab heinous brutality ever since 635 CE? Or do you wish to uncover the entire Moloch worshipping past of the Arabs?

    As the Zionism does not have a genocidal agenda, supporting it does not make one the same as you with your support for Hamas and their dreams of Genocide.

  • Comical_Ali

    Let me get this straight – whilst you continually accuse Israel of committing ethnic cleansing (despite the unexplained fact that the Arab population in Israel and the territories is experiencing the fastest growth in the Arab world) you are more than willing to dismiss genocide and ethnic cleansing allegations against one of the most notrious European war criminals of the second half of the 20th century?

    Its all polticially convienant for you, isnt it?

  • Addamo

    Or do you wish to uncover the entire Moloch worshipping past of the Arabs?

    Oh so now we’re into Satanism are we? If arabs are worshipper of Molcoh, then so are the Jews. Both religions are based on the same dieties after all, are they not?

    As the Zionism does not have a genocidal agenda, supporting it does not make one the same as you with your support for Hamas and their dreams of Genocide.

    The US Constitution does not have an emperial or tyranical agenda, nor does it aim to curtail civil liberties, but that has not stopped the country from prusuing all of these aims.

    A document means nothing. After all, Bush was quoted as referrgin tot he Consitution as just a “goddam piece of paper”.

  • John Ryan

    Yes well theres a couple of past PMs in Israel who know a thing or two about enthic cleansing and mass murder

  • Shabadoo

    Um, am I to take it that you have now joined the Pinter, et al, Milosovic-was-innocent contingent? Was Slobo a war criminal in your book or not?

  • Comical_Ali

    they certainly do John, considering that Arabs are experiencing the highest population growth there. Perhaps Slobo should have taken some advice from them

  • edward squire

    "I’m not about to give this man who was captured in a war a full jury trial," said the Supreme Court Justice.

    Okay – the US has officially gone insane.

  • Chris

    Not as insane as Geoffrey Wheatcroft. When that idiot mentioned Jenin as a reason for anything shows how ridiculous his opinion is.

  • Chris

    I have never read of a connection between Moloch and Satan. Please show a link that has better credibility than you.

  • John Ryan

    Good thing he did not mention the massacre by the Israeli Armys good and great friends the Phalangist militia while Sharon and co sat on there hands aint it Chris
    dont worry Ali the Israeli Govt madder members will figure out a way to get rid of the arabs, your already building a proto concentration camp all you need is the guard towers

  • Chris

    It could have mentioned it. Showing how Arabs treat Arabs over silly little disagreements would certainly be in Israel's best interests. Thank you for mentioning it, I had always thought you were just another advocate of the racist Arab National socialist movement.

  • Comical_Ali

    sixty years John – its kinda taking them a long time.

    And when it comes to massacering Arabs/muslims, there is no one better at it than Arabs themselves. Thanks for pointing out the phalangist militia (note the main culprits of that massacer were later promoted to high government & military positions by the Syrians & had very close links with the PLO – but where is your outrage at this? Oh the crocodile tears). In addition you can also google – "Black september massacer of Palestinians" "Hama massacer". In Black september alone, King Hussein of Jordan managed to massacer over 11,000 palestinians in a space of a few weeks. So Five times as many palestinians were killed in such a short space of time in comparison to those killed in the six year intifada with Israel. Five times. Where's the outrage? the crocodile tears? Calls for the war crimes trial of Hashemite kingdom?

    Why don't we ever hear about this from the very people who champion Palestinain rights? Kind of akward for people who purport to stand with the Palesitnians, with no ulterior motive in mind…

  • Addamo

    Comical,

    May I ask how many you think Milosovic killed as part of the "genicide" he was responsible for?

    It's a pitty you don't keep up with the news.

    And as far as enthic cleansing by israel, you need look no futhre than the fact that Israeli leaders themselves talk openly of enthnic cleanign as part of policy. Seeing as you are the other two C's love to pin your arguments on what organisations say (as oppose to what they do) this makes Israel the number pne proponent of ethnic cleansing.

    I seem to recal not long ago, how you and your fellow traveller, Abraham, complaining that it was undreasonabel to complain about it.

  • John Ryan

    I find that interesting the the Christian Phalangist Militia who were allied with the Israeli army,suddenly changed sides, please pull the other one son,Sharon was the comanding officer and should have been tried for war crimes instead of being given a slap on the wrist.
    Well if ever there was an adherent of the national socialist movement and use of properganda that would do Dr Gobbles proud you and Ali take the cake,in your world black is white and white is black,the arabs are the( excuse my spelling) untermershun who derserve to be destroyed,they must not resist they must not say anything at all if they do why their terrorists,I,m interested in the difference between the resistance movement in Europe and the resistance to the Israeli occupation,both were aganist foreign troops,who were occupying their lands,both tried to kill the occupying forces and their agents,I would think if they had been able to they would have attacked the major population centres as well, if what you say is right then the US civil war was a silly little disagreement the first World War might fall into that category as well interesting take on history that,the Palestinians are resisting the occupation of their land and the stealing of more of it by the Israelis.

  • Chris

    I find it interesting that you have still failed to comment on the horrendous tales of Arabs brutally destrying their brother Arabs.

    You continue to support the Arab Nationalist Socialist movement, with its racist and genocidal agenda.

    Addamo, your failure to look at all is what allows you to make things up as you sit on God's lap.

  • Comical_Ali

    I find that interesting the the Christian Phalangist Militia who were allied with the Israeli army,suddenly changed sides, please pull the other one son,Sharon was the comanding officer and should have been tried for war crimes instead of being given a slap on the wrist.

    Only trouble is that there is no evidence proving or linking Sharon to giving direct orders to massacer. His only orders were for the withdrawal of Israeli troops. The direct orders for massacering and killing came from the leaders of the Phalangist Christian militia – the same leaders who were later promoted by the Syrians (the same country which called for Sharon to be put on trial) and established close joint alliances with the PLO (an organisation which also called for Sharon to be indicted for” war crimes” over this). Abit akward isn’t it?

    Concidentally, passionate “Palestine” supporters who purport to care for “Palestinian human rights” (yourself included), display no interest in bringing the main culprits (those who issued the orders and those who carried them out) of this crime to justice.

    Well if ever there was an adherent of the national socialist movement and use of properganda that would do Dr Gobbles proud you and Ali take the cake,in your world black is white and white is black,the arabs are the( excuse my spelling) untermershun who derserve to be destroyed,they must not resist they must not say anything at all if they do why their terrorists,

    Well, if the Arabs really were untermenschen who deserved to be destroyed, logic would clearly dictate that there would be no Arabs left – thats considering Israel’s overall military might and the sixty year duration of the conflict. No?

    Its a strange irony, that those who accusse Israel & their supporters of censoring criticsm by playing the “anti-semitism” card, routinely play the “race” card themselves – constantly throwing around “racist,” “nazi” “facist” at people whose only crime is to disagree with them. Such is the strange modus operandi of those who routinley accusse their detractors of playing the “anti-semitism” card.

    But thats not where the irony stops. It gets weirder. I’ve said this before and I’ll say this again – I think it’s a little rich for those who talk about the various conspiracies of “powerful Jewish lobby group,” to be throwing around Nazi ephitets. Especially when their views on “powerful Jewish lobbies” and Israel at large are endorsed by former Klansman David Duke and the Neo-Nazi Adelaide institute. Even stranger for them to be directing these Nazi ephitets at the descedants of Holocaust survivors.

    Im interested in the difference between the resistance movement in Europe and the resistance to the Israeli occupation,both were aganist foreign troops,who were occupying their lands,both tried to kill the occupying forces and their agents

    Perhaps the brave Muslim dissident Wafa Sultan, could help bring some perception into your warpped brain:

    The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the Holocaust), and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with their terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. Humanity owes most of the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the world, united and won their rights through work and knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. The Muslims have turned three Buddha statues into rubble. We have not seen a single Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an embassy. Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches, killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not yield any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them.

    No German resteraunt or for that matter bus were blown up late alone a pregnant mother & her children murdered in cold blood. Thats the difference between this “resistance,” and the brave resistance of world war II, you tool.

    Made even braver, when one considers that unlike the terrorists in this case, the resistors to Nazism faced a policy of clear cut extermination. Unlike the Palestinians, they did not recieve the highest per capita aid in the world (they recieved no aid). Unlike the Palestinians, their leaders did make it into the “forbes rich list” nor did they own holiday villas in Europe, wear designer clothes and drive top of the range cars. And unlike the Palestinians, they were not granted freedom of speech and the right to a free and indpendent media which called for the destruction of Germany.

    The list and the differnece are just never ending, tool.

  • Addamo

    I find it interesting that you have still failed to comment on the horrendous tales of Arabs brutally destrying their brother Arabs.

    Why stop at that? Should we not also aknowledge theerefore the genocides commited at the times of the Spanish inquisition? Ho wabou the genocide of the Crusades? Arab brutality is not uniquie to the world bny any means.

    You continue to support the zionist movement, with its racist and genocidal agenda.

    Nice to see you postyet another trite and meaningless post.

  • Addamo

    You sure you got your facts straight about arabs being worshippers of Moloch?

    Moloch
    Buy Moloch stuff in the Deliriumsrealm online store

    Moloch, Dictionnaire Infernal
    Moloch, the Abomination of the Children of Ammon

    Molech, whose name probably derived from Melech "king" and Bosheth, "shame", was one of the deities worshipped by the idolatrous Israelites. He was referred to as "the abomination of the children of Ammon" (1 Kings 11:7) and the primary means of worshipping him appears to be child sacrifice or "to pass through the fire." Solomon was said to have built a temple to him.
    http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/mythology/

    Moloch
    by Micha F. Lindemans

    "King". The sun god of the Canaanites (Ammonites?) in old Palestine and sometimes associated with the Sumerian Baal, although Moloch (or Molekh) was entirely malevolent. In the 8th-6th century BCE, firstborn children were sacrificed to him by the Israelites in the Valleye of Hinnom, south-east of Jerusalem (see also Gehenna). These sacrifices to the sun god were made to renew the strength of the sun fire. This ritual was probably borrowed from surrounding nations, and was also popular in ancient Carthage.

    Moloch was represented as a huge bronze statue with the head of a bull. The statue was hollow, and inside there burned a fire which colored the Moloch a glowing red. Children were placed on the hands of the statue. Through an ingenious system the hands were raised to the mouth (as if Moloch were eating) and the children fell into the fire where they were consumed by the flames. The people gathered before the Moloch were dancing on the sounds of flutes and tambourines to drown out the screams of the victims.

    According to some sources, the Moloch in the Old Testament is not a god, but a specific form of sacrifice.
    http://www.pantheon.org/articles/m/moloch.html

  • Chris

    Exactly what does Moloch have to do with satanism? Is this a connection you just made up?

    I still find Geoffrey Wheatcroft bullshit rather amusing? 'Not anymore'? He's talking about 40 years ago. When did it become 'not anymore'? And exactly what crimes were excused? Any links or is Wheatcroft also inventing things as he goes along?

    When did these douche bag liberals start excusing Palestinian crimes?

  • Addamo

    Moloch, Bilal, Bahomet are all associated with Satanism.

    No one is excusing violence, but the Oalkestinain violence is not born out of ideology, whereas Israel's occupation is, albeit cloacked in the guide of security.

  • Addamo

    I don't have a link becasue it never read it online. I recall reading this in a book a friend lent me a while back. Order of the Golden Dawn I think was the tiitle.

  • Addamo

    Its a strange irony, that those who accusse Israel & their supporters of censoring criticsm by playing the “anti-semitism” card, routinely play the “race” card themselves – constantly throwing around “racist,” “nazi” “facist” at people whose only crime is to disagree with them.

    You seem to be confused about the meaning of irony and use it with great aplomb.

    This is a typical straw man argument put forward by Israeli apologists when they find they are running out of rope to hang themselves rhetorically. There is no argument that Zionists overtly endeavour to censor critics of Israel, to the point where groups like APIAC boast about their lobbying prowess but then insist that the term Israeli lobby is itself anti-Semitic.

    No one plays the race card better thn the right and Israeli apologists. To accuse those who have sympathy for the Palestinians of racism is absurd for any racist would typically find Arabs more difficult to support than Israel.

    You carry on about a pregnant mother and her children being murdered in cold blood. yes this was an outrage, but the fact that you blatantly ignore equally despicable acts perpetrated by the IDF proves beyond a doubt that you could care less. When did that mother and children get killed? How many Palestinian mothers and children have been killed since then?

    Only today, three Palestinians were killed by the IDF in Gaza. Now tell me, what the fuck were the IDF doing in Gaza when Gaza was supposed to have been handed over last year amongst all the fanfare and huge compensation paid out to the Israeli settlers?

  • Comical_Ali

    May I ask how many you think Milosovic killed as part of the “genicide” he was responsible for?

    You've got to be kidding, right?

    Milosevic, 64, the first head of state to appear before an international war crimes trial, was charged with more than 60 counts of war crimes and crimes against humanity arising from wars in Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia and Kosovo, in which more than 250,000 people died. He faced life in prison if convicted. Milosevic refused to recognize the tribunal and conducted his own defense, denying all charges.

    Not only are you people appalling, but you also live in an alternate zombie reality where everything is twisted turned upside down.

    And as far as enthic cleansing by israel, you need look no futhre than the fact that Israeli leaders themselves talk openly of enthnic cleanign as part of policy. Seeing as you are the other two C’s love to pin your arguments on what organisations say (as oppose to what they do) this makes Israel the number pne proponent of ethnic cleansing.

    Can you please point to at least one piece of evidence which proves that Israeli leaders talk "openly of ehtnic cleansing" thus randering the country the "number one proponent of ethnic cleansing."

  • Addamo

    Comical,

    No blood libels? You feeling mellow today?

    I doubt Davi Duke is a crd carrying member of the Democrats. He is anti immigration and white supremacists do tend to gravitate to the right, even if he is a critic of Bush.

    yes, so its a very, very, very, slow genocide & form of ethnic cleansing committed on the part of those dancing Israelis…

    paint it anyway you like, but if the rgion was a swiss cheese, the Palestinaisn are living in ever shrinking holes.

    you see, five times as many palestians were killed by the Jordanians in three weeks compared to those killed by the Israelis in six years…so yes the Israelis are clever.

    Which massacre are you referring to?

    In either case, your stock in trade is to defend all Insaeli actions by pointing to a more extreme example. I wonder if someone on murder charges would get much mileage by pointing to some high profile serial killer at his trial?

  • Chris

    "You carry on about a pregnant mother and her children being murdered in cold blood. yes this was an outrage, but the fact that you blatantly ignore equally despicable acts perpetrated by the IDF" – Addamo

    There are no equally despicable acts by the IDF.

  • Comical_Ali

    This is a typical straw man argument put forward by Israeli apologists when they find they are running out of rope to hang themselves rhetorically. There is no argument that Zionists overtly endeavour to censor critics of Israel, to the point where groups like APIAC boast about their lobbying prowess but then insist that the term Israeli lobby is itself anti-Semitic.

    They also managed to burn down a few building and murder a few people here and there. Such is the quest for the zionists to censor their opposition, that politicians, aritists and Jewish dissidents are either dead or in hiding with 24/7 protection.

    To accuse those who have sympathy for the Palestinians of racism is absurd for any racist would typically find Arabs more difficult to support than Israel.

    David Duke, Stormfront, the Adelaide institute, David Irving, all don't find supporting the Arabs difficult. Quite the contrary – and many have endorsed the type of views propagated here.

    And neither did Hitler & Himmler for that matter who had a close alliance with the Arab/Muslim world.

    You carry on about a pregnant mother and her children being murdered in cold blood. yes this was an outrage, but the fact that you blatantly ignore equally despicable acts perpetrated by the IDF proves beyond a doubt that you could care less.

    equally despicable acts such as the IDF randomly shooting at a pregnant Palestinian woman and her children?

    Logic would have it, that if Israle had the same policies as its adversaries, there would be no Arabs left.

    Only today, three Palestinians were killed by the IDF in Gaza. Now tell me, what the fuck were the IDF doing in Gaza when Gaza was supposed to have been handed over last year amongst all the fanfare and huge compensation paid out to the Israeli settlers?

    Could it have had something to do with a little thing called Kassam rockets being launched into Israeli territory? Now why the fuck were those rockets launched into Israeli territory after Israel withdrew from Gaza? Did they accidentally land there? Did a finger slip on the launch button? And how is Israel suppossed to react?

  • Addamo

    They also managed to burn down a few building and murder a few people here and there. Such is the quest for the zionists to censor their opposition, that politicians, aritists and Jewish dissidents are either dead or in hiding with 24/7 protection.

    OK, so all that means is that Israeli apologists are a little more sophisticated. It's like the IDF who manage to kill very efficiently from the safety of cockpits. it still does not obfuscate the very obvious censorship and marginalization of Israel's critics.

    David Duke, Stormfront, the Adelaide institute, David Irving, all don’t find supporting the Arabs difficult. Quite the contrary – and many have endorsed the type of views propagated here.

    Another typical tactic, guilt by association. Well, anyone can play that game. Pat Robertson has called for he assassination of Chavez, and as a Israeli supporter that must mean Israel openly practices assai nation. Ironically that also happens to be true so it’s a bad example.

    Let me see. Being a right winder fanatic, Duke probably voted Republican, which means that he supports Bush, which means that by association, Duke is a Zionist right?

    Israel has close relations with South Africa, so does that mean that Israel also has an anti-black policy?

    equally despicable acts such as the IDF randomly shooting at a pregnant Palestinian woman and her children?

    God knows how many have been killed. I'd say that popping 17 rounds into a 13 year old Palestinian girl, or shooting a 9 year old girl is up there with the worst of them. I'd be surprised is a pregnant Palestinian woman or two had not copped it either.

    Logic would have it, that if Israle had the same policies as its adversaries, there would be no Arabs left.

    As I said before, it's the boiling the frog principal. Israel needs international support and sympathy, No surer way to lose that than to go into overdrive.

    Now why the fuck were those rockets launched into Israeli territory after Israel withdrew from Gaza? Did they accidentally land there? Did a finger slip on the launch button? And how is Israel suppossed to react?

    Te last time Sharon tried to spin this crap he forgot that the cameras were rolling ans his charge that the Un was helping Hamas move missiles ended up being totla bollocks.

    Then again, more of these guys could have been stirring up shit for all we know.

    Palestinians arrest al-Qaeda 'poseurs'
    http://www.propagandamatrix.com/palestinians_arrehttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2546863.st

  • Comical_Ali

    OK, so all that means is that Israeli apologists are a little more sophisticated.

    I think thats just a little bit of an understatement, but for your own credit its probably the most accurate thing I've heard you say.

    Another typical tactic, guilt by association. Well, anyone can play that game.

    "guilt by association" – you couldn't sound more innocent. If you've noticed I was responding to someone who called me a Nazi…

    & my response was merley to point out the akwardness of that particular charge.

    Let me see. Being a right winder fanatic, Duke probably voted Republican, which means that he supports Bush, which means that by association, Duke is a Zionist right?

    You only have to visit his website to find out that he didn't vote for Bush, but thats beside the point.

    Israel needs international support and sympathy, No surer way to lose that than to go into overdrive.

    yes, so its a very, very, very, slow genocide & form of ethnic cleansing committed on the part of those dancing Israelis…

    you see, five times as many palestians were killed by the Jordanians in three weeks compared to those killed by the Israelis in six years…so yes the Israelis are clever.

    Then again, more of these guys could have been stirring up shit for all we know.

    Yes, those shit stirring dancing zionists had the ingenius plan of firing rockets into their own territory.

  • Addamo

    Oh settle down Chris.

    Comical has a propesity for colourful language. I was curious as to what he considers to be gencide, vs mass murder vs skirmishes, the preferred term used by Israeli appolgists to explain how Plesrtinians accidently get killed by IDF gunfire.

    The numbers killed during Black September was estimated at between 3-5 thousand.
    From the copmmencement of teh second Intifada, September 28, to the present Israel killed approximately 3,000 Palestinians. But as Comical woudl put it, they were skrimishes – nthing to worry about right?

    So it sems that Cimical is conpletel mistaken, which is no surprise.

    Don’t worry Chris, you can keep your seat on God’s lap. I knwo how much you like it there.

  • Chris

    There is a truly excellent column in the Duke Chronicle (hat tip: LGF) by Dr. Bala Ambati on Palestinian self-determination ambitions. A couple of stand-out paragraphs follow:

    History demonstrates that self-determination doesn't require mass murder. Desire to destroy others by one's own destruction is fueled by craven clerics selling murder for sex by peddling depraved fantasies of 72 celestial virgins for "martyrdom." Modern suicide bombing is bereft of honor: even kamikazes attacked targets that could shoot back, unlike today's suicide-bombers who hurl themselves at buses, towers, discos and restaurants.

    The inhuman brutality of Muslim to fellow Muslim–800,000 Pakistanis killed by Pakistan in 8 months in 1971, 20,000 Syrians killed in a week by Syria in 1982, 1.5 million Afghans killed by the Taliban in 5 years, 200,000 Iraqis killed by Saddam in 1988, 5,000 Palestinians killed by Jordan in one month in 1970, 300,000 Palestinians ethnically cleansed by Kuwait in 1991–dwarfs anything done by Israel where 3,000 Palestinians were killed in eight years of intifada or the U.S. Those blaming Israel and America forget this, revealing their indignation as hollow.

    (http://www.chronicle.duke.edu/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/02/26/3e5cd44a84b9d)

  • Addamo

    Thanks for the laugh Chris. Gves us an insight into where ou are gettign your informtion I supose/

    200,000 Iraqis killed by Saddam in 1988

    Yeah sure. This guy kinda likes to highball the numbers a tad doesn't he? Even the highest estimates from US government sources only put the totla number killed by Saddam at 300,000 over 30 years. He was obviously feeling ver feely touchy the other 29.

    5,000 Palestinians killed by Jordan in one month in 1970

    Others put the numbers at 3000, but hey, we're telling a story right? Anyway, the US killed more than this many every month for the first 14 months of the Iraq campaign.

    Duke apparently thnk that it's mroe honoruable for Westerners to kill Arabs than arabrs killing Arabs.

    Modern suicide bombing is bereft of honor:even kamikazes attacked targets that could shoot back,

    …as opposed to firing missiles form an Apache helicopter, whch gives the opponents miles away plenty of opportunity to thorow a few rocks. What honor!! What bravery!!

    300,000 Palestinians ethnically cleansed by Kuwait in 1991–dwarfs anything done by Israel

    That's what you get for opposing a US protected tyranical government. Ooooooooops. Di dhte US make any noise abotu this? OF course not.

  • Chris

    Why should the US make noise about Kuwait expelling resident aliens who assisted Saddam in the rape of Kuwait?

    Seems our fool addamo likes to laugh at death while he sits on God's lap.

  • Addamo

    Assisted? Where did we go from supporing to assiting? I don't recall Iraq bring in Kuwait long enough to a lot of raping.

    Another figurement of your imagination Chris? Perhaps Mr Suke has some colorful but make believe explanation?

    I dont laugh at anyone's death Chris, Arab, Jew or otherwise. That's whet seperates you and it.

  • Addamo

    Oh and the other thing that sperates us apart fromyour lack of human compassion is your being so fast and loose with the facts.

  • Chris

    It seems Antony seeks to save your feelings from the truth. What separates us is your lack of spelling and typing ability, along with intellectual power and education. Your compassion flows from your made up facts, not truth.

    It does not appear that sanctions will be placed on Israel as long as the palestinians continue to be lead by what appears to be blood thirsty fanatics bent on genocide.