Interestingly Mos' they say climbed mt Sion and then smashed the tablets given to him because he saw jews worshipping what they tradionally worshipped. I find that unbelievable. There is a credible train of science which says Mos' and Akenhaten were the same person and I think a wider view upholds that possibility.returning to the near present, the father of zionism was not Hertzl, nor was a it anything to do with the silly personal letter from Balfour which the ignorent cling to as flies to flypaper and having never read the letter, it was Mayer Amschel Bauer aka "deRothschild, the criminal and conspiratorial banker who's family owns most of the world's money and is the sureme power in our world. It is the creator of war and strife anf the profiteer of it. Once Hitler had created Israel and the British Government agreed with the US powerbrokers to hand Palestine over to "the Jews" the money supply to Germany was again interrupted and the President told to go to war.In the years before that the US was heavily invested in the german military industrial factors.

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The "jewish"  invasion of Canaan and its success saw the jews settle in Canaan for between 500 and 600 years until defeated by Nebuchadnezzer. Later having allowed so many to stay he found them untrustworthy and exiled them.  

Predictably "west focussed" that terroism of Israel is examined by both ben Menashe and Ostrovsky. Both texta have been edited and ben Menashe's particularly in it's closing. The zionist lobby and its :jumelle" the masonic Lodge is immensely powerful in Autralia. It was intrinsic in the dismissing of Rudd for example.

We are indoctrinated from birth pretty well with the jews being special and are made to revere them for the second war and the gratuitous violence some millions suffered, many slughtered in death factories.We are told nothing of the 5 million gypsies and others who's execuitons started well before the jews. We are told nothing of the zionist collaborators giving over thousands of jews to the gestapo, to quote Stern "we have no interest in the fate of the old order" (old order jews…not wanting to move to Palestine) but clearly he and his associates did, as they and their brothers in USA for example, created what was in fat the holocaust…the scrificing of jews for personal gain..The German pogrom was not "an holocaust"..theirs was outright murder, no sense of the sacrificial. Others died in work camps and the Russian prisoners of war were starved to death, some 2 million of them.

Alongside the 60 million soviet citizens who were murdered of starved to death under zionist criminals the "holocaust " is a sideshow…not for the victims of course, but in quatum and that becomes even less significant numerically when we look at Russians and the "non jews" who were also victims…they do not feature in "the holocaust" as the "holcuast" was to empower zionism and it has done so, to the point that it sits in judgement and power in Australia and elsewhere. Lapkin is entitles as much to an opinion as anyone else of course, however to try to crucify Lowenstein is merely to continue the work of one of the worlds great liars..the ADL (and B'nai Brith).

For me, a goy,even one killing of a jewish person as was done is unacceptable, whatever the cause…I don't agree with Lapkin's zionist views that killing innocent people for furthering a zionist  end is acceptable.He has the zionist/Mossad intel pea rolling around in his skull. I also am disgusted with the preposterous posturing of the zionists in Australia, slagging Julia Irwin, inciting the demise of Rudd who went crawling to them for salvation while Gillard partied with them. I despise her putspoken support of their atrocities and I wonder how anyone so ignorant of their history can be PM…unless the reality is that people like her are the ones they want as tintookies for their cause.

In closing, Lowenstein correctly argued that Israel had created roads for Jews whilst Lapkin argues they were for Israelis but as the arabs in the Knesset are disempowered and arabs are unable to use these roads, they were built for jews,but in fact  the violence prone fanatical zionists which are imported to fill stolen Palestine whilst forming a zoo in Gaza which periodically is opened up for sports hunting. Lapkin argues that the UN disctum was obeyed as "Israel returned 90%…Golan Heights"…Lapkin, we are not all as stupid and pacified as your zionists controlling the government here and elsewhere think. We know that you are cog in the New Order and your interest in Australia is to parasite in a safe place along with your bretheren parasites whilst you work at dictating how Australia will be.Hopefully some in the generations following mine will break free of the "holocaust mesmirising" and have you make a choice about where you live. Australians are forced to be tolerant under the globalisation schemes inficted on them and many are more than tolerant . to use a rather pathetic word "embracing it"..as people are imported by the hundreds from Asian countries where they were paid pittances to take their jobs at bottom rates. There will not be many zionists found at the bottom of the worker pile though their leaders often are, like Howes and Dadon. 

Were Lapkin an observant jew more than a doctrinaire zionist he could well ponder this:

1) the Arab population of present day Palestine, who have lived there since at least the Muslim conquest of Jerusalem in February 638 AD (for more than 1,370 years), have certainly a right of occupancy as much as any other community has to their land of residence anywhere.

2 The British Empire, in driving Ottoman rule from Palestine (1917), in its Balfour Declaration promises support for the "establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people" on condition that –

"nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine".

I add that this promise was critical to US entering the war to assist the British against the virtually victorious Germans.

3)Israel did not fulfil the UN requirement it return the lands and to its own boundaries in 1967

4)Right-wing politician Ariel Sharon asserts (2000) Jewish rights on East Jerusalem's Temple Mount by violating the Islamic sanctity of the Al Aqsa Mosque; triggering widespread rioting by Palestinian Muslims and a violent reaction by Israeli military forces, which ends the negotiation process on Palestinian autonomy from Israel.  Attacks and counter-attacks continue to escalate.

In other words Israeli has lost its rights to exist in Palestine.

Voila

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Withdrawal of Israeli forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict,

(ii) 

Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force".

(i) 

Withdrawal of Israeli forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict,

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Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force".

Which aspects of those your’re “in near total agreement with” do you not agree with?

I don't agree with all aspects of the metaphysics (for want of a better term) that underlie Buber's Zionism.

There are many of them – some types of Zionism I am in near total agreement with.

Which types are you "in near total agreement with"?

Which aspects of those your're "in near total agreement with" do you not agree with?

I don’t know what you mean by Zionists.

A good point. There are many of them – some types of Zionism I am in near total agreement with.

Jews Living In Iran Without Persecution: A People Just Too Embarrassing For Zionists To Mention.

I don't know what you mean by Zionists. Jews and Isrealis, and many who are really concerned about human rights are very aware that the Jews of Iran are endangered species. See for example Iranian Jews barely hanging on under hard-liners

Could you help me out a little here? You and a few others here use the word "Zionist" a lot. A REAL lot. But there does not appear to be any theme connecting all the different ways you use the word.

I always thought that Zionism was a movement of European and Russian Jewry to establish a sovereign state for Jews. As this was achieved in 1949, why do so many of you still shriek about it in 2006?

I think that Lapkin is really just looking forward to a similar article from the same author Jews in Palestine after 2000 years: A people who seem unable to just disappear and go away

…not to mention its twin: Jews Living In Iran Without Persecution: A People Just Too Embarrassing For Zionists To Mention.

Lapkin might want to take note of this article … Israel at 58: A Failing Experiment

I think that Lapkin is really just looking forward to a similar article from the same author Jews in Palestine after 2000 years: A people who seem unable to just disappear and go away

Israel at 58: A Failing Experiment
http://english.ohmynews.com/ArticleView/article_view.asp?menu=A11100&no=292027&rel_no=1&back_url=

The guy is obviously a dinosaur. Reading him, one can almost hear the laboured breathing, poor old coot.