Comments on: Two conflicts http://antonyloewenstein.com/2006/06/22/two-conflicts/ Mon, 13 Feb 2012 02:54:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Pete http://antonyloewenstein.com/2006/06/22/two-conflicts/comment-page-1/#comment-6583 Pete Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:02:03 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/06/22/two-conflicts/#comment-6583 Thanks Antony For spotting yet another good blog. The article on Chechnya and Iraq shows how difficult it is to compare them. The main wave of killings of Chechen's by Russians seems to be past. I understand something like 50,000 Chechens have died over the last 15 years at the hands of the Russian military and FSB. Iraq looks worse at the movement because the killing is still in the "main wave" and no side is "winning" (dominating) enough to slow it down. No puppet government has successfully been installed in Iraq (yet). How many deaths in either conflict are due to sectarian killings rather than US or Russian action is impossible to determine. This is no comfort to Chechen's or Iraqis but it reflects how difficult it is to account for the pain, suffering and cost of occupations and counterinsurgency operations mixed in with civil wars. Pete <a href="http://spyingbadthings.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://spyingbadthings.blogspot.com/</a> Thanks Antony

For spotting yet another good blog.

The article on Chechnya and Iraq shows how difficult it is to compare them.

The main wave of killings of Chechen's by Russians seems to be past. I understand something like 50,000 Chechens have died over the last 15 years at the hands of the Russian military and FSB. Iraq looks worse at the movement because the killing is still in the "main wave" and no side is "winning" (dominating) enough to slow it down. No puppet government has successfully been installed in Iraq (yet).

How many deaths in either conflict are due to sectarian killings rather than US or Russian action is impossible to determine.

This is no comfort to Chechen's or Iraqis but it reflects how difficult it is to account for the pain, suffering and cost of occupations and counterinsurgency operations mixed in with civil wars.

Pete
http://spyingbadthings.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Keith http://antonyloewenstein.com/2006/06/22/two-conflicts/comment-page-1/#comment-6565 Keith Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:47:11 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/06/22/two-conflicts/#comment-6565 <blockquote>This “positive message to the Muslim world” becomes irrelevant when Israel continues to murder Palestinian civilians in Palestine.</blockquote>Exactly right because their hatred is of Jews not Zionists. I would however be careful about equating Israel with murder as I don't believe any honest person would agree that Israel deliberately kills civilians. Should they try harder to avoid civilian deaths? Ofcourse. At the cost of having armed militants on their way to fire missiles at Israel free to do it? No, I don't think so. What country in a similar situation would allow that?

This “positive message to the Muslim world” becomes irrelevant when Israel continues to murder Palestinian civilians in Palestine.

Exactly right because their hatred is of Jews not Zionists. I would however be careful about equating Israel with murder as I don't believe any honest person would agree that Israel deliberately kills civilians. Should they try harder to avoid civilian deaths? Ofcourse. At the cost of having armed militants on their way to fire missiles at Israel free to do it? No, I don't think so. What country in a similar situation would allow that?

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