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Sorry, no cigar. You smeared somebody without providing some context or verification in front of people who don’t know what it is all about. But this is par for the course; smear, then pretend you have the moral high ground because you said so. Then blithely tell soneone who objects to chill out, because … because you said so, that why!
Propaganda offensive? As in posing with dead mutilated bodies (sorry martyrs) for photo opps?
“George W. Bush had a plan to get out of the Vietnam War.
He wan’t even in politics then. ”
Um, Keith, JohD probably didn’t realise you had no sense of humour or imagination. The joke, if you need it spelled out is that GWB did indeed have a plan for getting out of Vietnam. He avoided the draft by opting for the National Guard. Then he failed to serve out his National Guard commitment.
You’re right. He wasn’t in politics then, but his daddy’s political connections sured helped keep him out of trouble at the time.
Comic you are a moron. Are you suggesting that those people died just so that people could pose for propaganda pictures? You disgusting creep; those people are not posing, they are collecting the chunks of flesh created by Israeli bombs. In the process, journalist and others are recording the scene. You are a piece of filth, why don’t you fuck off. I don’t see why you should be allowed to pollute our lives like this. Just fuck off under the rock you came from.
He thinks he’s being nice, sharing his porn collection. Go over and post them on Tim Blair Comical, you know they love this stuff. Remember when the Pure Ones bombed Yassine? Eh? That was a real party over there. All the photos of the wheel chair blown up with the old man. Wooooweee!! Everyone was a hootin’ and a hollerin’, shukin’ and jivin’, high fives…
Comical
You poor sod. You really should shut up, go away and just stick to jerking off over those pictures. You are looking increasingly ridiculous (if that were even possible). So forget that it was the IDF that mutilated these bodies. No, according to you, the real crime here is that the individuals here (the live ones) are not showing enough respect for the remains of the dead. Holy Jesus Comical, who thinks this shit up?
I must say, it’s quite a spectacle watching you, Captain and Ros working so feverishly to conflate, distract, and shift the blame from what is actually taking place. Desperate time call fro desperate measures right Comical?
One thing is certain. This is one episode that Israel wil not be able to spin to come out looking squeeky clean. The world is seeing once and for all, what a barbaric, cruel, coewardly and brutal regime Israel’s leadership is. Never again is taking ona new meaning, as in never again will the world feel sympathy for Israel.
On most blogs I read I pick up when people are joking. On this blog however most of what is said is so out of touch with reality that I missed your very ‘clever’ humour. I’m sensing here you are in your late teens or early twentys with that sort of cleverness.
Keith,
Has anyone told you that reality is not what you read while on your Playstation?
Can leftvegdrunk please explain what ad hominem means to poor intellectually challenged adummbooo.
Yes.
What do you think of the PLO, Hamas and Hezbollah policy for calling “thousands of martyrs?” Do you deny that they use their own civilians as human shields and exploit their subsequent deaths for propaganda purposes?
So what is the guy doing holding up a body of a dead child (like a piece of meat) for the camera?
By the way, in case anyone missed anything (and therefore thinks I’m referring to the wrong pictures), the order of pictures has changed – so you won’t see them straight away on the link I provided unless you click on the next page and the page after.
The images that I’m refering to are – Image 71454097 Image #71454045, and Image #71454078.
And in case you had any doubts about the posing for the camera part – what do you think the guy is doing by pointing his finger at the wound of the dead child that he is holding up in Image #71454045?
Is that how they collect dead bodies these days?
Captain,
You kinda like shooting yourself in the foot don’t you?
Maybe you might want to look it up to Captain?
Comical, you are beginning to sound as deranged as the late and great Ibraham.
Your asserion that people died for the sake of publicity is the perfect example of mental sickness.
Ahemmm, wasn’t it mentioned somewhere about taking people with them?
And hwo does that differ from the bullshit being carried in the US about dying for your country? And sacrificing your life for freedom? How is this any different to Olmerts comment that the war would continue until the cost became to great (i.e. to many dead Israelis)?
Who doesn’t use deaths for propaganda purposes? I seem to recall a country that keeps harping on about 6 million deaths to justify their irrational and militaristic behavior, as well as their obsession with security?
Oh shame on him. I mean, the guy’s job is to pick up pieces of mutilated bodies you freak!! He is wearing gloves you idiot. But in your demented mind, he is exploiting those human remains. Maybe you want to blame the guy holding the camera too perhaps.
Never mind that the “a piece of meat” is the result of IDF bombs. Oh no, that’s just irrelevant now isn’t it? You are not offended by what has taken place here, just the recording of this for the world to see.
Who are you going to blame for his picture Comical?
http://www.videos.informationclearinghouse.info/lebpic/leb29.jpg
or this one?
http://english-cyprus.indymedia.org/usermedia/image/9/used-to-be-a-woman.jpg
http://english-cyprus.indymedia.org/usermedia/image/13/killed-by-chemical-weapons.jpg
or this one?
http://english-cyprus.indymedia.org/usermedia/image/6/survivor-from-sheba-a.jpg
or this one?
http://english-cyprus.indymedia.org/usermedia/image/13/member-shakar-family.jpg
or this one?
http://english-cyprus.indymedia.org/usermedia/image/3/what-is-left-of-talal-shakar–nabishiet-massacre.jpg
Bad camera man. Bad!
Here are the ten rules to debating Middle East Rules of Engagement if you’re a Zionist.
Rule 1: See the Middle East through Israeli eyes.
Rule 2: Treat American and Israeli governmental statements as hard news.
Rule 3: Ignore the historical context.
Rule 4: Avoid the fundamental legal and moral issues posed by the Israeli occupation.
Rule 5: Suppress or minimize news unfavorable to the Israelis.
Rule 6: Muddy the waters when necessary.
Rule 7: Credit all Israeli claims, even if wholly unfounded.
Rule 8: Doubt all Palestinian assertions, no matter how self-evident.
Rule 9: Condemn only Palestinian violence.
Rule 10: Disparage the international consensus supporting Palestinian rights.
There is an eleventh rule that hovers over all the other rules. Equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism
As we can see, Comical has made ample use of Rules 1, 5, 6. 7, and 8. Give the man a star!!
Comical, you haven’t been going to those sites again. naughty boy
He is wearing gloves? the guy is clearly hygiene conscience…thank heavens for that.
I’ll ask again – is it common practice for people with jobs to collect dead bodies and body parts, to hold up the dead bodies (and point to their wounds) for journalists?
The irony of it all, is at the end of the day somebody like myself is more concerned with the lives of Arab civilians than an Addamo or a Loewenstein who purport to campaign for their human rights. For you, the rights of these people are just a means to an end – they are just human cannon fodder, human shields or to use the more common expression “martyrs.”
If I’m wrong, then why don’t people like Loewenstein come out to denounce the PLO, Hamas and Hezbollah policy of encouraging “martyrdom” among children for example as much as they denounce Israel’s killing of civilians? Why do they continually evade this?
Disgusting.
If it will help prevent more death, it is imperative you klutz! There is something extremely ugly leaking from your radiator. I really think the smart thing is for you to fuck off right now, you have already amply demonstrated that you are a moral cretin.
No but its certainly part of journalism to go around trying to get those photos yourself, i wouldnt be suprised if they were asked to pick up the bodies and show the wounds for the camera, why should that reflect badly on the people picking up the body especially since the photo is showing the world what Israel did to the people to begin with.
like it or not thats news (and news is designed to report the truth of whats happening around the world to people who want to know) now whilst alot of news is biased and wrong (because of failing to confirm facts before reporting them) a picture like that simply cannot be faked (rationally) it spells out without the biased words of a reporter that this is the product of an Isrraeli bomb
So is it a common and ethical practice? I think the type of damage that Israel is inflicting, is evident – without having to resort to hold up and parade dead bodies and body parts. That particular tactic speaks for itself.
When talking of civilian deaths and injuries as a result of Israeli bombing, do you ever take into account the Hezbollah policy and use of civilians for human shields? Or the idea that dead civilians makes good PR for them? And is it a simple coincidence that the end result is parading dead bodies in front of cameras?
Israel meets its obligations under international law by warning civilians (via flyers & broadcasts) to get out. Hezbollah on other hand, uses civilians for human shields. So why be surprised at the amount of destruction that the Israeli bombing has caused to civilian life?
I’m not defending hezbollah or any of their human shield policies (if they indeed do) but you cant seriously attack the people holding the bodies up for the whole thing, the journo who took the photo no doubt would have been the one to ask him to hold it for his report.
from Comical;
“I think the type of damage that Israel is inflicting, is evident – without having to resort to hold up and parade dead bodies and body parts. That particular tactic speaks for itself.”
Wow, you not only want them killed but you want them to die in style.
I’m sure that eventually these people will learn to die away from the camera and spare our sensitivities – it may take some time but give them a chance.
This is like mugging a guy on the street, and complaining that he shouted too loud. Why can’t he be robbed with decorum you ask?
Comical
Is it common practice to destroy whole city blocks and bomb the be Jesus out of civilians? Hey, maybe there was a journalist there who said, “could you hold up whatever it is you’re holding so that the world can see what Israel means when it says it’s defending itself?”
You are priceless Comical. You harpoon about how the human remains of Lebanese Arabs are being treated and that is supposed to be evidence that you are“more concerned with the lives of Arab civilians than an Addamo or a Loewenstein”
Is that what your crystal ball says Comical, or is that what they taught you at Zionist finishing school?
No one is evading this Comical, although there can be no dispute that you have evaded that Israel is killing ten times as many people as her enemies are killing, and you are sticking to the premise that this is an equal equation.
Again, by your premise, one should have condemned the Jews in the concentration camp in Nazi Germany who rebelled and over ran their captors, for surely this put other Jews at greater risk of retribution right?
Oh yes, so disgusting, but for heaven’s sake, let the bombing continue right?
Actually the bit about humans shields is beginning to look like a complete Israeli propaganda BS campaign. On Thursday, 50 Lebanese were killed and only one Hezbollha combatant.
This is comprehensive proof that Israel don’t know here Hezbollah are and are pretty much just bombing anywhere they think Hezbollah might be. This has NOTHING do with human shields, but Israel’s policy that it’s better to bomb and kill innocent civilians, than to bomb and be unsure if that was a legitimate target or not.
Don’t you mean BAD PR for Israel?
And is it a simple coincidence that the end result is parading dead bodies in front of cameras?
Coincidence? Ever considered that those dead bodies were created by Israel in the first place? Shame on the media for reporting it right? I mean, it’s not like the world needs to know about what’s going on or see the reality of Israel defending itself.
And then it fails miserably in it’s obligation completely by bombing those people as they are fleeing in their vehicles. It’s failing miserably, when those people have no where to go and no way to leave, thanks to bombed roadways.
This is akin to freeing a prisoner and then shooting them in the back as they run away. The Nazi’s could not have done it better.
That’s great spin Comical. Israel’s success rate at killing Hezbollha is something like 8% success rate, but let’s call the innocents human shields, because it just rolls of the tongue so much better. And no Comical, no one is s” surprised at the amount of destruction that the Israeli bombing has caused to civilian life”, just extremely disgusted.
Israel is doing the Arab world a huge favor by shredding any credibility it ever had or any claim to victim hood or vulnerability/
I don’t accuse you of defending Hezbollah, I’m just asking you to take into account their policy of using human shields and generating “martyrs,” every time you hear of Arab civilians being killed in IAF air strikes, etc.
let’s just say it was the jurno’s fault only (though no major news service published or would publish this and all jurnos would know that) – it was still an awfully strange way to be handling dead bodies (even if there were no photographers in the area), don’t you think?
Except that in this case, the evidence points somewher
Except that in this case, the evidence points somewhere else. If these were human shields, then there would be at least one dead Hezbollah combatant for every strike would there not? But hat is not the case – not by a long shot.
Israel’s strike rate stands at 10% as far as hitting legitimate targets, which proves that this has noting to do with human shields but collective punishment.
Thanks for admitting that the media would have censored these images because they would make Israel look like the ravenous state that it is.
There is nothing strange about holding up evidence of what Israel has done. No stranger that showing the mass graves of Jews exterminated by Germany. It is evidence of what is happening.
If an Arab news service were to report that Israeli bombs killed x numbers of women and children, you would be the first to dismiss this as Arab propaganda. Instead, we are presented with pictures, which are pretty hard to refute, though not through lack of trying on your part.
You are absorb in the extreme Comical. You are completely fine with the killing, but outraged that pictures are being shown.
Pure Gold Comical. Keep it up.
e esle. If these were human shields, then there woudl be at least one dead Hezbollah combatant for every strike woudl there not?
Israel’s strike rate stands at 10% as far as hittign legititmate targets, which proves rthat this has notign to do with human shields but collective punichment.
Thaks for admitting that the media woudl have censored these images because they woudl make Israel look like the ravanous state that it is.
There is nothign strange abotu holding up evidence of what Israel has done. No stranger that showing the mass graves of Jes exterminated by Germany. It is evidence of what is happening.
If an Arab news service were to report that Israeli bombs killed x numbers of women and children, you woudl be the first to dismiss this as Arab propaghanda. Instead,
You are absurb in teh exreme Comical. You are competely fine with the killing, but outraged that pictures are being shown.
Great news Ant and the rest of the sane posters here:
It looks like the flags in the right column are down to one:
British split with Bush as Israeli tanks roll in
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1826969,00.html
You know, they can say what they like, but this interview, and his previous interviews demonstrate without a shadow of doubt that Hasan Nazrallah is a class act. His command of the situation, and his calm approach is admirable.
Long live Hezbollah!!
Israel Military Stunned by the Failure of it’s Air War
Oh dear!
The innevitable outcome of aiming your guns at the wrong target.
So much for all those human shields comical keeps harping on about.
Hey Comical,
You should visit this blog to get some new material. Your manufactured outrage at the photos of Arabs holding up human remains is failing miserably:
http://www.cjrdaily.org/behind_the_news/about_those_photos_of_little_g.php
According to this chap, no one can be trusted to interpret facts for themselves. The Zionist lens must always be used. Sounds like your kind of logic.
The folks at Columbia Journalism Review want to remind us “that television news and photojournalism manipulate our thoughts and emotions.” Oh? We didn’t notice.
And if you want to get really creative, here’s a novel approach:
Photo of the day: Israeli kids sends gifts of love to Arab kids
http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2006/07/17/photo-of-the-day-israeli-kids-sends-gifts-of-love-to-arab-kids/
Here that our Lebanese breatheren? Thes bombs are exploding with love!!!