Best-selling journalist Antony Loewenstein trav­els across Afghanistan, Pakistan, Haiti, Papua New Guinea, the United States, Britain, Greece, and Australia to witness the reality of disaster capitalism. He discovers how companies such as G4S, Serco, and Halliburton cash in on or­ganized misery in a hidden world of privatized detention centers, militarized private security, aid profiteering, and destructive mining.

Disaster has become big business. Talking to immigrants stuck in limbo in Britain or visiting immigration centers in America, Loewenstein maps the secret networks formed to help cor­porations bleed what profits they can from economic crisis. He debates with Western contractors in Afghanistan, meets the locals in post-earthquake Haiti, and in Greece finds a country at the mercy of vulture profiteers. In Papua New Guinea, he sees a local commu­nity forced to rebel against predatory resource companies and NGOs.

What emerges through Loewenstein’s re­porting is a dark history of multinational corpo­rations that, with the aid of media and political elites, have grown more powerful than national governments. In the twenty-first century, the vulnerable have become the world’s most valu­able commodity. Disaster Capitalism is published by Verso in 2015 and in paperback in January 2017.

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forgodssakecover Four Australian thinkers come together to ask and answer the big questions, such as: What is the nature of the universe? Doesn't religion cause most of the conflict in the world? And Where do we find hope?   We are introduced to different belief systems – Judaism, Christianity, Islam – and to the argument that atheism, like organised religion, has its own compelling logic. And we gain insight into the life events that led each author to their current position.   Jane Caro flirted briefly with spiritual belief, inspired by 19th century literary heroines such as Elizabeth Gaskell and the Bronte sisters. Antony Loewenstein is proudly culturally, yet unconventionally, Jewish. Simon Smart is firmly and resolutely a Christian, but one who has had some of his most profound spiritual moments while surfing. Rachel Woodlock grew up in the alternative embrace of Baha'i belief but became entranced by its older parent religion, Islam.   Provocative, informative and passionately argued, For God's Sakepublished in 2013, encourages us to accept religious differences, but to also challenge more vigorously the beliefs that create discord.  
After Zionism, published in 2012 and 2013 with co-editor Ahmed Moor, brings together some of the world s leading thinkers on the Middle East question to dissect the century-long conflict between Zionism and the Palestinians, and to explore possible forms of a one-state solution. Time has run out for the two-state solution because of the unending and permanent Jewish colonization of Palestinian land. Although deep mistrust exists on both sides of the conflict, growing numbers of Palestinians and Israelis, Jews and Arabs are working together to forge a different, unified future. Progressive and realist ideas are at last gaining a foothold in the discourse, while those influenced by the colonial era have been discredited or abandoned. Whatever the political solution may be, Palestinian and Israeli lives are intertwined, enmeshed, irrevocably. This daring and timely collection includes essays by Omar Barghouti, Jonathan Cook, Joseph Dana, Jeremiah Haber, Jeff Halper, Ghada Karmi, Antony Loewenstein, Saree Makdisi, John Mearsheimer, Ahmed Moor, Ilan Pappe, Sara Roy and Phil Weiss.
The 2008 financial crisis opened the door for a bold, progressive social movement. But despite widespread revulsion at economic inequity and political opportunism, after the crash very little has changed. Has the Left failed? What agenda should progressives pursue? And what alternatives do they dare to imagine? Left Turn, published by Melbourne University Press in 2012 and co-edited with Jeff Sparrow, is aimed at the many Australians disillusioned with the political process. It includes passionate and challenging contributions by a diverse range of writers, thinkers and politicians, from Larissa Berendht and Christos Tsiolkas to Guy Rundle and Lee Rhiannon. These essays offer perspectives largely excluded from the mainstream. They offer possibilities for resistance and for a renewed struggle for change.
The Blogging Revolution, released by Melbourne University Press in 2008, is a colourful and revelatory account of bloggers around the globe why live and write under repressive regimes - many of them risking their lives in doing so. Antony Loewenstein's travels take him to private parties in Iran and Egypt, internet cafes in Saudi Arabia and Damascus, to the homes of Cuban dissidents and into newspaper offices in Beijing, where he discovers the ways in which the internet is threatening the ruld of governments. Through first-hand investigations, he reveals the complicity of Western multinationals in assisting the restriction of information in these countries and how bloggers are leading the charge for change. The blogging revolution is a superb examination about the nature of repression in the twenty-first century and the power of brave individuals to overcome it. It was released in an updated edition in 2011, post the Arab revolutions, and an updated Indian print version in 2011.
The best-selling book on the Israel/Palestine conflict, My Israel Question - on Jewish identity, the Zionist lobby, reporting from Palestine and future Middle East directions - was released by Melbourne University Press in 2006. A new, updated edition was released in 2007 (and reprinted again in 2008). The book was short-listed for the 2007 NSW Premier's Literary Award. Another fully updated, third edition was published in 2009. It was released in all e-book formats in 2011. An updated and translated edition was published in Arabic in 2012.

Asking some tough questions

The following article appears in today’s Canberra Times:

Mad world; daring to question the role of Israel
Jenna Price

I can’t write about Israel. It is way too hard. In my family, I am alone in supporting Israel. In my country, there would be few who would support Israel and its actions – and the others are all raving right-wing maniacs.

Well, when I say support, I think it should exist. My husband and children all believe that it would make more sense to have Israel in, say, Poland. What’s the point in being surrounded by enemies, they ask. So I won’t go into the whole thing about how for centuries, Jews felt as if they were surrounded by enemies, even in Europe. Israel was founded as a giant refugee camp, an idea to which most of us would be sympathetic. But right now I’m even more sympathetic to Lebanese families who are getting bombed to death, when they were just minding their own business and living family lives. Lebanon in summer is beautiful and I was delighted to hear that a young family friend was to visit Lebanon this month and get a crash course in Arabic.

He, of course, is trapped there and getting more than a crash course.

It is no longer fashionable among assimilated Jews like myself to support the existence of the state of Israel, and if you do, you had better want it to be in pre-1967 borders or you lose your licence. Joking. In regular circles, however, Jews who criticise Israel are in big, big trouble. Ask Antony Loewenstein. He is the author of My Israel Question, soon to be published by Melbourne University Press. He grew up in a traditional Melbourne Jewish family, went to a conservative private boys’ school and did honours in arts at Monash. But a few years ago, he started questioning the role of Israel in the Middle East. He started questioning his parents. And, they started questioning themselves. Now, they’ve changed their position – lost a few friends along the way – but accepted their son’s view that maybe the Israeli way is not the right way. (In 1975, I remember helping a charming Palestinian boy screenprint some anti-Zionist posters. My mother went off her head. The Loewenstein parents sound far more moderate.)

Antony, 31, is an only child so maybe they get more sway with their doting parents, but his ability to change the way his parents thought might augur well for the success of his book. And I don’t mean the kind of success where the book goes to number one (although I’m sure he’d like that too). The success we need is to bring, to Jews, the frustrating topic of Israel out into the open. To non-Jews, what Israel has done to recently rebuilt Beirut is a disgrace. And if that was happening to any other country in the universe, Jews would feel the same way. It’s raising that consciousness to reflect what is happening in Lebanon which will be a challenge. Why should Israel exist? For Jews, it was built as a haven and in our minds, continues as one, just in case there is another Holocaust.

But I don’t want that state to be built on the corpses of another forgotten nation, as Jews were forgotten during the Second World War. I know the Israel question. I wish I knew the answer.

45 comments ↪
  • A touching essay Jenna.

    Israel moving to Poland? Bad memories?

    (Currently) cuddly Russians and Germans breathing down your neck? No space. I don't think so. You'd need to put up a pretty good case for a seachange to bloody freezing eastern Europe.

    The most obvious place for the Jews of Israel to shift enmasse is, of course, Australia.

    Plenty of space, water's a problem, but I hear the Israelis are rather advanced in the desalinisation field.

    A few logistical details to sort out. The Yanks would fund the move – it would be cheaper for the Yanks to do this than to support Israel in a regional nuclear war with the Muslims within the next 12 years or so.

    Second choice might be to move to the ol USA – many cultural similarities with Israelis.

    Anyway I'm drifting I have lots of Jewish mates and even the rightwing, near Zionists are losing faith in Israel's brand of "neighborly relations".

    Pete

  • orang

    I got another good idea, all the zionists fuck off. What's left use those beaut D-9's to "tear down that wall" before driving them into the sea. Open up the borders , say "sorry", start building back all the stuff you knocked down. Mrs Habib's house being number one. Give Palestinian's the right to citizenship and equal rights to vote etc. Don't need to do that in one go, but it's a start. Maybe you won't get funding from the US now because you're no use to them, so sell a few F-16's for cash.

  • M.Mayes

    Losing faith a time when the world – even the Arab world – are begining to realise that Israel’s response might be justified. I doubt it.

    did it feel good to say that keith? because as im sure you are well aware if anything this time the world is seeing that Israel isnt justified, Kofi Annan has said himself that they are using way too much force, in one of the many UN media announcements it was said that Israel could be committing war crimes here, not to mention the overwhelming support from countries for a ceasefire…

    suddenly your post seems somewhat void.

  • Anna

    Thank you for this article – it formulates into words some of what I've been feeling and thinking since Israel essentially declared war on Lebanon.

    I wasn't brought up in any formalised way as Jewish, but I was always aware of my heritage (my mother was brought up in an Orthodox family in London), and I've spent considerable time reading up on Jewish history and culture and trying to find that part of myself, of my history; at the end of the day, I consider myself a non-religious Jew – culturally Jewish.

    I did a bit of work on the history of Zionism at University, and in the 19th century, they were considering places all over the world; the Falkland islands, a country in Africa, and Palestine. Palestine was the worst choice of the bunch.

    Recently I've been thinking about the cultures and mind sets of countries in the terms of how you'd think of individuals with mental health issues. It struck me that Israel (and it saddens me deeply) is the classic case of the abused growing up to become the abuser. It's almost a kind of national/governmental post traumatic stress reaction – they're treating every kind of conflict in the way they wish they could have in the 1930s.

    I distrust Zionism. It smells a bit like nationalism, which I really dislike as a general rule. However, I do think Israel as a concept should exist – but not before they've had a heavy dose of psychotherapy.

  • Thomas

    Will history keep on repeating the utter fallacy of,a onesided reason for TERRORISTS ATTACKS?,was the invasion of IRAQ a just war?,no it was and is the same as this,and on what side are the western powers?,UN IS A LAME DUCK manipulated by none other then the USA

  • M.Mayes

    ah captian, the poster boy for blatent idiocy and lack of any debating skills necessary to even bother posting here.

  • Keith

    I have lots of Jewish mates and even the rightwing, near Zionists are losing faith in Israel’s brand of “neighborly relations”

    Losing faith a time when the world – even the Arab world – are begining to realise that Israel's response might be justified. I doubt it.

  • Addamo_01

    When you decide to return to planet earth Keith, you might realise that the only two countries now supporting Israel's agression are Israel and the US.

    Even the UK has jumped ship.

    78% of Americans even disagree with America's stance on Israel's agression with Lebanon.

  • Addamo_01

    Excellent post Anna,

    You might be interested in readin this article from former CIA analyst, Kathleen Christison. It's pretty harshly worded, but certainly consistent with your observations:

    Atrocities in the Promised Land http://counterpunch.org/christison07172006.html

  • Roonaldo

    Last weekend marked the 60th anniversary of the bombing of the King David Hotel in which 91 people were killed. A time for the Israeli government to apologise for this act of brutal terrorism? No, instead they have erected a plaque at the hotel commemorating the event. Netanyahu allegedly used a related conference to claim that the difference between a terrorist attack and a legitimate military action is expressed in the fact that terrorists intend to harm civilians. Incredible hypocrisy.

  • Addamo_01

    Netanyahu allegedly used a related conference to claim that the difference between a terrorist attack and a legitimate military action is expressed in the fact that terrorists intend to harm civilians.

    Hard to get one's head around that amount fo purity and ifallible morality is it not?

  • Addamo_01

    Actualyl Roonaldo,

    Bibbi's comments are hardly surprising given that hsi first reaction when asked about 911, was that is was "very good".

    Who knows, maybe in a few decades, Israel will erect another plaque and celebrate 911 as a turning point in it's evolution?

  • smiths

    it really does make you wonder what the hell news and current affairs keith is watching,

    i'll give my observation of the average person in the arab world,

    thank fuck someone is finally standing up for the opressed and forgotten muslims,
    give hell hezbollah

  • smiths

    should say
    "give them hell hezbollah"

  • Addamo_01

    Patrick Seale has given a farily good account of what Israel are up to. No one with any understanding of history believes Isael intends to stop at just creating a demilitarized Zone.
    http://www.agenceglobal.com/article.asp?id=972

  • smiths

    often its the convergence of many reasons that lead to the event,
    and this may be one of them as well

    From Lonergan and Brooks' Watershed: The Role of Fresh Water in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, published in 1995:

    Israel’s incursion into Lebanon and the establishment of the “Security Zone” in the early 1980s allows it access to the lower reaches of the Litani River (which flows within 10 km of the Israeli border). These actions, coupled with past unsuccessful attempts by Israel to reach an agreement with Lebanon to share Litani water, have led to great Arab concern that Israel will unilaterally divert the Litani into the Jordan River…. In a letter to the British Prime Minister, David Lloyd George, Chaim Weizmann noted [in 1919] that Lebanon “is a well watered region . . . and the Litani River is valueless to the territory north of the proposed frontiers . . . . It can be used beneficially in the country much further south” This interest in the Litani continued through the 1950s, when both Prime Minister Ben-Gurion and Moshe Dayan, Israel’s Chief of Staff, advocated Israeli occupation of Lebanon up to the Litani River. The fact that Litani water is very high in quality with a low mineral content only enhances its value — and the perceived threat.

  • Thomas

    Have not come across any editorial in any Australian news outlet,that has been frank about this incursion and wrecking by Israel in the middle east

  • Captain

    ah, smiths, the terrorist cheer squad.

  • Adam

    This conflict between Israel and Hezbollah has gone beyond the inaccurate justification by Israel of “Self defense”. This is now a state executing war crimes in Lebanon and Palestine. Much worse is that the great western super power USA has totally agreed to support Israel against its war crimes committed against the Lebanon population, thus promoting both state terror and state war crimes. How can a so called civilized western world stand side by side with Israel and support and agree to its actions in total destruction of another democracy.

    Any human who witnesses the death, terror and war crimes committed by Israel and not to mention total destruction and deliberate killing of civilians will make human blood boil, with anger and frustration. How evil can Israel and its humble supporters be in wanting to press full steam ahead in establish and recognizing Israel as a state which is today rests on Palestinian blood and the blood which is poring from Lebanon. How can this Jewish nation in Palestine live with this guilty conscience? How can they claim the right to exist when they eliminated the Palestinian right to exist in their own land? How can they live with all this?

    Israel and its supporters are the true terrorists of this world, this is not an assumption but a real hardcore fact.

  • orang

    Keith's back!

    Heloooo Keith. Dude, did you think about my question to you?

    What are your thoughts on a country that intentionally shells picknickers on a beach and sonic booms little children in the middle of the night.

    ..waiting waiting..

  • Addamo_01

    ah, smiths, the terrorist cheer squad.

    For those not aware of it, this is Captain's code for saying:

    Ah fuck it, everyone here is onto me, I have run out of talking poiints and can't think of anything worthwhiel to say, so I'll just insert an ad hominem to make it look like I'm contributing to the discussion. Viva??? Comical??????? Keith?????? Help!!!!!!!!!!

  • Addamo

    Hey All,

    I j discovered something interesting. I just found out that I have been banned from Tim Blair's blog. No official notification, just a cowardly message when I try to read the thread:

    System Offline
    This site is currently offline for maintenance. Please be patient; it will be back soon

    Priceless huh? This guy who runs one of the most hard core blogs, with subscribers who consider themselves so astute and ready to fight, doesn't even have the balls to tell you to fuck off.

    What's interesting though, is that I haven't posted there in a few weeks, so I suspect that TB has some of his orks patrolling this blog and reporting back to the mother ship what people are writing.

    What stronger evidence of the fear that is pervading the right wing? These people, who claim to be the strongest advocates and defenders of freedom and liberty, are in truth, the most afraid of debate and dissent.

    So Keith, you've been busy I take it? Has Master rearded you generously, my preciousssss?

  • Captain

    “give them hell hezbollah”

    smiths

    Hezbollah are a terrorist group.

    ah, smiths, the terrorist cheer squad.

    Mere observation.

  • Captain

    I do think Israel as a concept should exist – but not before they’ve had a heavy dose of psychotherapy

    But how are you going to find a room big enough? Oh well I guess you could start cramming Jews into small rooms. Oh heck thats been tried before.

  • orang

    "I j discovered something interesting. I just found out that I have been banned from Tim Blair’s blog. "

    Hahhaaa. They're real tough guys over there-real butch. Until you give them some alternate opinions then they start yapping; "Oooh(whatsername, the Brunhilda)ban him"

  • Addamo

    Hezbollah are a terrorist group.

    Anyone who opposed Israel is a terrorist rigth Captain?

    What abtou the mob that blew up The King David Hotel, whe ones who are being celebrated in Israel? Hezbollah were democratically elected BTW. and hold 18% representation in Lebanon.

    Were the Irgun ever elected democratically?

  • Captain

    addummboo, come into the 21st century. Hezbollah are killing innocent people. They are designated as a terrorist organisation by many countries. They are supported by the evil regimes in Syria and Iran. What is it about that that doesn't get through your sick islamist head?

  • Addamo

    come into the 21st century

    So let's not mentino the Holocuast any more shall we? Forgotten, right?

    Hezbollah are killing innocent people.

    A lot less innocent peopel that Israel are killing. Even worse, is that Israel's success in targetting civilians is much worse than Hezbollah.

    They are designated as a terrorist organisation by many countries.

    They were not desginated as such by those who voted for them in teh democratic Lebanese elections.

    They are supported by the evil regimes in Syria and Iran.

    Evil regimes are they? Why, becasue they oppose Israel? How many countries have Iran and Syria gone to war with in the lat 100 years? Hwo many countries have they invaded? How muhc lnad did they steal? How many people have they killed?

    What is it about that that doesn’t get through your sick Jusdeofascist head?

  • Adam

    Captain

    Just calm down scalawag, forget 21st century have a look at the news in the last 24 hours Mr Scalawag Captain, innocent people are deliberately being targeted by your Israeli state, over 700,000 people have been forced to leave their homes this is totally Holocaust scenario and the poor Muslims and Arabs who are late in fleeing are being targeted deliberately, this is an act of terror and state level war crimes.

    Mr Captain, how do you live with your self, holding them evil views which support an illegal state, who have not contributed to any civilization since their existence but rather have contributed to the destruction around the world in almost every century. Have you ever wondered why Iran wants to arm its self with nuclear technology, if you have not then let me help that very slow working brain of yours, Iran simply wants to rival Israel and its undeclared nuclear weapons. If you really want to eliminate terror or any resistance group anywhere in the world then move Israel and take it somewhere else.

    Scalawag your views are rotten and arrogant. The western country calls any resistance group as terrorist but in the Middle East these same groups are respected as resistance and freedom fighters. Mr Captain your views are supporting a terrorist state, a state deep in committing war crimes, when you come to this blog and alike you will meet resistance since not everyone is blind as you and senseless.

  • Addamo

    The Israelis have advised that using a truck to flee may attract attack. Trucks can be used to carry weapons.

    So, you can leave, but you can't pack a truck with your family and posessions–and everything that remains will surely be looted, even if you ever return to it. Where are you going to go? What are you going to eat when you get there? How will and where will you purchase the gasoline (that you can no longer pack–see the truck thing) you need to reach the destination?

    Hizbullah's rocket attacks against Haifa are unjustifiable outside Captain's frame: it fires against the Israelis whose democracy funds and arms the Tsahal, against the young people (remember, women can serve in the IDF) who make up the armed forces, and the children who will grow up to be of military age.

    This is the language and logic of ethnic cleansing, of blind nationalism, of firebombing Dresden and Tokyo. I am the filthier for having dipped into the pool in which Captain swims.

  • Captain

    Hizbullah’s rocket attacks against Haifa are unjustifiable outside Captain’s frame

    And then addumbbo you go on to justify this? Children in oncology wards are being moved because the shelling is so close to the hospital.

    Mr Captain, how do you live with your self, holding them evil views which support an illegal state, who have not contributed to any civilization since their existence but rather have contributed to the destruction around the world in almost every century.

    I am sorry, its some time since I studied Mein Kampf. Thank you for the refresher.

  • Addamo_01

    Children in oncology wards are being moved because the shelling is so close to the hospital.

    Oh my how incovenient!! How many Israeli children are dead? Anywhere near the hunderd plus that ISrael have murdered? At least those children are alive you moron!!

    I am sorry, its some time since I studied Mein Kampf.

    I bet you even read the German version right Captain?

  • Addamo_01

    Hey Captain,

    Speaking of children, meet some of the lucky ones, that got a nice wiff od Israeli White Phosphorous. Wow, I wonder if the Nazi's were aroudn today what they would make of adding WP to their bombs. I bet Joseph Mengele would be green with envy.
    http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/VIDEO__Lebanese

  • Captain

    Its funny that you think that because some people in Lebanon voted for Hezbollah that this somehow means it is not a terrorist group.

    Thank you for showing your concern to the world. I have made it very clear that I, and for that matter any Jew I know, am saddened by the civilian casualties in this war.

    Nassrallah's actions were calculated. Hezbollah fire from densely packed civilian areas. Even the UN recognises this. But instead you join forces and support Hezbollah as does your name sake and smiths. Hezbollah have repeatedly fired ball baring packed missiles into civilian areas at random with no agenda other than to destroy Israel completely. Perhaps you could explain why Al Manar TV repeatedly refers to "occupied Haifa" or other Israeli cities in a similar fashion.

  • Captain

    Addamboo, did you think of equating Jews with Nazis all by yourself?

    I saw the Lebanese dr make these claims. Let them be independently verified. I saw no evidence for it at all. What I did see though was evidence of child abuse. Imagine firing missiles right next to children!

  • Captain

    I got another good idea, all the zionists fuck off. What’s left use those beaut D-9’s to “tear down that wall” before driving them into the sea.

    Is this the neonazi think tank?

  • Addamo_01

    Its funny that you think that because some people in Lebanon voted for Hezbollah that this somehow means it is not a terrorist group.

    This whole, "they're terrorists and we're not argument" is becoming completely irrelevant in light of Israel's attacks and the celebration of the bombings of the King David Hotel.

    Please define a terrorist group? A group that has committed acts of terror? Do you really want me to list the acts of terrorism Israel has perpetrated?

    Nassrallah’s actions were calculated. Hezbollah fire from densely packed civilian areas. Even the UN recognises this.

    Yes, they waited for IDF soldiers to cross into Lebanese territory, which was a blatant provocation, and then they nabbed two IDF soldiers. Of course, everyone knows that Israel’s attack was premeditated from more than a year ago, and that the capture of IDF soldiers was seized on as an opportunity.

    Hezbollah have repeatedly fired ball baring packed missiles into civilian areas at random with no agenda other than to destroy Israel completely.

    Of for fucks sake Captain stop grasping at straws will you? Olmert even boasted about setting Lebanon back 20 years. What more than an admission of wanting to destroy Lebanon?

    Hezbollha rockets have a range of 3-4 miles. How much of Israel do you think they will destroy with such limited weapons? How the hell can you compare those with Israeli missiles, F-16 fighters jets, apache helicopters, tanks and 500lb bombs?

    How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you try to portray this as a war of equivalent firepower, or damage that has been inflicted?

    And what do you call the demolition of Beirut Airport, churches, mosques, bridges, power stations, milk production factories? Obviously it was not random, but it is most certainly an effort to destroy all of Lebanon.

    Perhaps you could explain why Al Manar TV repeatedly refers to “occupied Haifa” or other Israeli cities in a similar fashion.

    What do you think it means? What significance does it have?

    I saw the Lebanese dr make these claims. Let them be independently verified.

    Yeah, need to find a good Jewish doctor to verify right, Can’t rust Arabs now can we?

    I saw no evidence for it at all.

    Very impressive Captain. I never knew you had a medical background?

    I What I did see though was evidence of child abuse. Imagine firing missiles right next to children!

    Funny, The reporter on the scene visits the site o the attack and makes no mention of Hezbollah rocket launchers in the area. You think he’s in on the Hezbollah conspiracy?

    Of course, the IDF censoring reports about the kind of weapons they are using is completely inconsequential right Captain?

    Israel bans reporting of use of "unique" weapons in Lebanon http://www.redress.btinternet.co.uk/israel_censor

  • Addamo_01

    BTW Captain,

    I guess you heard the news that Shiite Milita in Iraq are running to join Hezbollah? You must be chuffed, after all, you being so in favour of the Bush doctrine and all.

  • Captain

    “Consistently, from the Hezbollah heartland, my message was that Hezbollah must stop this cowardly blending … among women and children,” he said. “I heard they were proud because they lost very few fighters and that it was the civilians bearing the brunt of this. I don’t think anyone should be proud of having many more children and women dead than armed men.”

    Your pals are pleased that the civilians are being killed. Who would have believed it?

  • Addamo_01

    Your pals are pleased that the civilians are being killed. Who would have believed it?

    Who said anything abtou beign pleased? Being proud that the IDF has lost more peopel then they have is quite an achievement.

    And speaknig of coerwardly, nothing is more cowardly than dropping bombs from 30,000 feet when there is nothing to chellnge you.

  • Captain

    they were proud because they lost very few fighters and that it was the civilians bearing the brunt of this.

    Hmmm, they were pleased that the civilians were bearing the brunt of the military response. Nice.

  • M.Mayes

    This whole, “they’re terrorists and we’re not argument” is becoming completely irrelevant in light of Israel’s attacks and the celebration of the bombings of the King David Hotel.

    Indeed how anyone can justify being so against terrorism (indeed invading countries to get rid of it, whilst celebrating the King david hotel is beyond me, noting that zionist "freedom fighters were the ones who INVENTED modern terrorism. really shot yourself in the foot with that one didnt ya.

    Is this the neonazi think tank?

    Is this the neonazi think tank?

    Neo-Nazi's hate Jews (amongst others), Zionists hate Arabs, mind you Zionists are slightly more active in their genocidal adventures.

    Imagine firing missiles right next to children!

    As opposed to having children write messages on bombs? and also firing missiles AT children… last time i checked IDF had a slightly higher civilian kill ratio than hezbollah not to mention reportedly 1 third of them being children no less.

    Its funny that you think that because some people in Lebanon voted for Hezbollah that this somehow means it is not a terrorist group.

    I honestly hope captain that you do not want or expect peace for israel with that kind of attitude, its exactly that thinking by israel(not accepting hamas as a government, nor hezbollah a legitimate democratic party)

    that means that israel will never accept peace.

    Hezbollah have repeatedly fired ball baring packed missiles into civilian areas at random with no agenda other than to destroy Israel completely.

    because they feel they were kicked off land by the jews to begin with, because israel constantly kidnaps it politicians, civilians and yes also terrorists not that they can complain there. also these "ballbearing rocket" guess what, at the time israel invaded they had killed less than 10 people, my fucken heart goes out to you world's smallest violin style… geez ISRAEL HAS KILLED APPROXIMATELY 350 CIVILIANS IN 2 WEEKS

    I gotta tell ya my holocaust sympathy for you guys sure is headin south… theres only so much you can play that card

  • captain

    So because they feel they were kicked off land, that justifies ball bearing packed missiles?

    And because Israel is more effective at war, therefore there is something to be drawn from the death tally? Israel has been attacked by every neighbour. You are just upset that they keep winning.

    And guess what M.Maynes, Israel doesn't need your sympathy. It will comfortably eradicate the Hezbollah threat so that both Lebanese and Israelis can live with a secure border.

    By the way, am I the only one who has actually been to the border here?

  • Addamo_01

    You and your goddam ball bearing missiles!! Israel is using banned wepans liek cluster bombs you moron!!

    These things are a joke compared to cluster bombs, vacuum bombs, white phosphorous laden 500lb bombs, and hellfire missiles.

    So because they feel they were kicked off land, that justifies ball bearing packed missiles?

    Let's do an experiment and steal Israeli land, then bulldoze some homes and see if Israel doesn't reach for the nearest Apache helicopter/F-16.

    Israel is only more effective at war because they have the bigger guns. As Hezbollah proved last time they are actually more effective, given their limited arsenal. Israel hasn’t won a war since 1973.

    Israel were humiliated by Hezbollah last time, so they are not likely to have their way this time either. Either way, Israel will never know security or peace of mind, unless they negotiate a cease fire agreement. No matter how many they kill, more Hezbollah will join the ranks and they will seek bigger and more lethal weapons. Eventually one of them will get through to Tel Aviv.

  • M.Mayes

    thank you addamo i think you summed that one up quite nicely.

    although

    And guess what M.Maynes, Israel doesn’t need your sympathy. It will comfortably eradicate the Hezbollah threat so that both Lebanese and Israelis can live with a secure border.

    a nice secure border with 30km of lebanon cut out so israeli's dont have to get exhausted running to a shelter whilst a katushya rocket cracks a pot-plant, mind you this all happening after lebanons land and population are raped. AND ITS MAYES.