This was not a war of Israel’s choosing.

i suppose using cluster bombs wasnt their choosing then?, "level everything so theres no where to hide" hang on what about the hundreds of displaced citizens, using cluster bombs from that high up is a pety method of killing terrorists.

What warnings do Hezbollah give to Israeli residents?

none and i sympathise but even given no warnings very few have died in comparison as opposed to the lebanese who have received warnings and then still cant get away because they get bombed on the way out, not to mention being told essentially that your livelyhood is about to be destroyed.

. Either way, you just don’t like Israel taking control of the pathetic terrorists sponsorded by Iran and Syria.

i couldnt give 2 shits about terrorists (israel or hezbollah) it isnt a damned if they do damned if they dont situation because there is a 3rd option NOT HAVING TO GIVE WARNINGS AND ACTUALLY COMING IN ON THE GROUND AND NOT LEVELING EVERYONES HOUSES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

the benefits of democracy and capitalism.

what were they again, giving up your dictators and replacing them with America?

having america rape your resources and land?

being essentially another puppet of a goverment (america) that has nothing to do with you?

damn right, everyone should have democracy.

that put aside though LEBANON IS A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY YOU TWAT, and like it or not hezbollah are a democratic party.

I don't deny that civilians are being killed. I abhor this. Mistakes get made. This was not a war of Israel's choosing. You keep forgetting that Israel will have many different contingencies and plan to deal with threats. The fact they were able to respond so quickly is not ipso facto proof that there was some premeditated agenda. It is just fallacious reasoning.

I am not splitting hairs about orders. Israel warns residents for their own safety. This is the problem when you have Islamic terrorits burried in civilian areas. What warnings do Hezbollah give to Israeli residents?

You would criticise Israel if they gave warnings (as you do) or not give warnings and have higher casualties. Either way, you just don't like Israel taking control of the pathetic terrorists sponsorded by Iran and Syria. The days of pan arab nationalistic fantasies are well and trully over and you should stop crying about it and encourage your peoples to make peace and give their own populations the benefits of democracy and capitalism.

Hey Captain, what do you make of the use of cluster bombs. Forget your fucking ball bearings in missiles, what about these banned things, which are only useful in populated areas?

Come on, tell us your frontal lobes are intact. Israel made no orders at all. The question is therefore completely daft.

Israle is giving these people an ultimatum. be gone in half an hor becaue we're commign back to bomb your house.

Trouble is that Israel is also bombing these peoepl are the leave in their cars.

This is a massacre. A genocide and it's no surprise that the internaional community is talking about war crimes.

Bring these butchers to trial.

Come on, tell us your frontal lobes are intact. Israel made no orders at all. The question is therefore completely daft.

you cant be serious. you or one of the pro-israel posters on here have actually stated in defense of israel that they sent around flyers telling residents to get out of their homes whilst they blow them up. if you want to split hairs about the term 'orders' go for it, but the point still remains the same.

Don't discount Netanyahu's influence in Israel. His part may not be in power, but Netanyahu is a power broker and has enormous influence as a negotiator and poicy setter. He is constantly travelling and spends much time in the US giving directions ot teh lobbyists.

The tough guy theory for Olmert doesn't wash. He has gone in far too deep to just try and score points back home in terms of security.

By what legal authority can the army of one state order the civilians of another sovereign state out of their homes?

Do you have an answer to this? YES OR NO???????

how can you be so certain about the totalitarian regime of Syria.

You seem certain. Do you have high level contacts in the Syrian government? The simplest answer is always the real one. Hezbollah are defending Lebanon.

Do you think that there are better human rights in Syria than Israel?

What the fuck has this got to do with the thread Captain? Trying a new tangent are we? Trying to throw up dust to divert the thread?

It’s not working Captain. Sorry.

Actually, given the way Isabel is treating Palestinians in Gaza right now (over 100 dead), I would have to say that Israel is the bottom of the human rights pile, even worse than Syria.

Both countries torture BTW.

Have you been to either country? Who did the Syrian last vote for at their general election? Tell us about the independent news outlets there. Tell us about their pact with Iran. Tell us about their murder of Harari and independent journalists in Lebanon. You are an utter moron.

All of which is entirely irrelevant and of no consequence to this topic. Israel is not destroying Lebanon for the sake of human rights and democracy is it?

Next……..

Oh yes, they asked to be kidnapped by murderous antisemites.

So the AP is anti-Semtic? You see how fucked up your logic is Captain? Yo insist that the only respetabel source of information is Israel – as though they are somehow impartial to all of this.

As the AFP reported,

According to the Lebanese police force, the two Israeli soldiers were captured in Lebanese territory, in the area of Aitaa al-Chaab, near to the border with Israel, where an Israeli unit had penetrated in middle of morning.

The French news site http://www.VoltaireNet.org reiterated the same account on June 18,

In a deliberated way, [Israel] sent a commando in the Lebanese back-country to Aitaa al-Chaab. It was attacked by Hezbollah, taking two prisoners.

The Associated Press departed from the official version as well.

The militant group Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers during clashes Wednesday across the border in southern Lebanon, prompting a swift reaction from Israel, which sent ground forces into its neighbor to look for them

Joseph Panossian for AP on July 12.

The forces were trying to keep the soldiers’ captors from moving them deeper into Lebanon, Israeli government officials said on condition of anonymity.

And the Hindustan Times on July 12 conveyed a similar account:

The Lebanese Shi’ite Hezbollah movement announced on Wednesday that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. ‘Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails, our strugglers have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon,’ a statement by Hezbollah said. ‘The two soldiers have already been moved to a safe place,’ it added. The Lebanese police said that the two soldiers were captured as they ‘infiltrated’ into the town of Aitaa al-Chaab inside the Lebanese border.

Anyway Captain, by your logic, IDF sdoldeirs captured in Israel are kidnapped right? So therefore you must agree that by building as detention centre for “captured” Lebanese in Lebanon, Israel is plannign to kidnap jundred of Lebanese right?

the whoe kidnapping of IDF soldiers was a lie

Oh yes, they asked to be kidnapped by murderous antisemites.

By what legal authority can the army of one state order the civilians of another sovereign state out of their homes?

Come on, tell us your frontal lobes are intact. Israel made no orders at all. The question is therefore completely daft.

Aduumbbbooo, how can you be so certain about the totalitarian regime of Syria. Do you think that there are better human rights in Syria than Israel? Have you been to either country? Who did the Syrian last vote for at their general election? Tell us about the independent news outlets there. Tell us about their pact with Iran. Tell us about their murder of Harari and independent journalists in Lebanon. You are an utter moron.