The threat

10 Responses to “The threat”

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• viva peace

  10 August 2006 at 6:50 pm

  Said was an Egyptian-American born of an upper class English colonial family: hardly a “Palestinian,” especially given that there was no such thing as a “Palestinian” until the 1980s.
• viva peace

  10 August 2006 at 7:02 pm

  Edward Said was a tragic 2nd rate fraud. As the spoilt sdon of an Egyptian-British colonialist and American he has fooled a whole generation of 2nd rate Marxists. These people are solely responsible for the dissolution of the wretched southern Syrians aka “Palestinians.”
• orang

  10 August 2006 at 7:14 pm

  yes viva, you’re right. Good girl. There, there. It’s alright.
• Ian

  11 August 2006 at 12:35 am

  there was no such thing as a “Palestinian” until the 1980s.

  Ignorant twaddle

  “Palestine became a predominately Arab and Islamic country by the end of the seventh century. Almost immediately thereafter its boundaries and its characteristics—including its name in Arabic, Filastin—became known to the entire Islamic world, as much for its fertility and beauty as for its religious significance…In 1516, Palestine became a province of the Ottoman Empire, but this made it no less fertile, no less Arab or Islamic…Sixty percent of the population was in agriculture; the balance was divided between townspeople and a relatively small nomadic group. All these people believed themselves to belong in a land called Palestine,”
  Edward Said, “The Question of Palestine.”

  OTOH, the northern kingdom of David known as Israel existed for a mere 73 years before the Assyrians blew it and its people to the 4 winds. Judah existed as an independant Jewish ruled state for only a total of 414 years. Note that is not 414 continuous years. The rest of the time the Jews of Judah/Samaria were just one group among many including Persians, Samaritans, Greeks and decendants of the old Caanite tribes in a land ruled by others. Source: Illene Beatty, “Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan” and Marcia Kunstel and Joseph Albright, “Their Promised Land.”
• Addamo

  11 August 2006 at 1:34 am

  Edward Said was a tragic 2nd rate fraud. As the spoilt sdon of an Egyptian-British colonialist and American he has fooled a whole generation of 2nd rate Marxists. These people are solely responsible for the dissolution of the wretched southern Syrians aka “Palestinians.”

  Don’t you just love how Viva has this God complex which compels him to dismis anyone who wriotes what he doesn;t want to hear as a fraud?

  And as always, who does it better than balming vicitms for their own demise? I suppose that the Jews had themselves to blame for choosing to walk into the gas chambers right Viva?

  We should all read the ramblinigs of chom Viva considers to be an intellectual giant, Martin Mramer, a man who believes that Saddaam’s invasion of Kuwait was an act of anti-Americanism, in spite of the fact that Saddam got the green light to invade from the US in the first place.
• viva peace

  11 August 2006 at 1:57 am

  Ian

  Edward Said is neither an historian nor a reputable scholar. He was a fraudelent polemicist. Kinda like an Egyptian Ann Coulter.
• M.Mayes

  11 August 2006 at 2:01 am

  wretched southern Syrians aka “Palestinians.”

  I honestly hope viva that you have never brushed off an arguement from anyone on here on the basis that they are racist (anti-semitic or otherwise) or extreme/facist.

  Though I could apply your version of anti-semitism to you aswell viva since karl marx was essentially a jew himself. very little logic on my part there, see if you can draw a parallel viva.
• viva peace

  11 August 2006 at 2:13 am

  M.Mayes

  ROFL. Dude, Marx was an antisemite, just like AL is. Hullo?
• Ian

  11 August 2006 at 9:10 am

  It was not until the Romans crushed the second Jewish revolt against Rome in 135 A.D. under Bar Kochba that Emperor Hadrian applied the term Palestine to the Land of Israel.

  One of the first Christian uses of the term Palestine is found in the works of the Church historian Eusebius, who lived in Caesarea. He wrote around 300 A.D

  Thomas S. McCall
  Zola Levitt Ministries

  [after the second Jewish revolt i 132-5AD] Judea was renamed Syria Palaistina.

  The Arab conquest began 1300 years of Muslim presence in what then became known as Filastin.
  http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761558705_2/Palestine.html

  The Greek word Palaistinêi from which “Palestine” is derived, was first used in the 5th century BCE by Herodotus who wrote of the “district of Syria, called Palaistinêi”.

  Oh, BTW and have you heard of the Philistines, Viva? They’re mentioned in the Bible I believe. I await your dismisal of its authors as “fraudelent polemicist[s]” and no doubt “self-hating, anti semitic Jews” with considerable amusement!
• M.Mayes

  12 August 2006 at 12:52 am

  Dearest Viva, you may note the term “very little logic” used. That being said the first point I made in that post still stands