I hardly think his cousin’s views are relevant to any serious academic exploration of these issues. This just highlights Ant’s appalling methodology.

Sounds kind of like the VAST majority of everything you ever post.

Does he think that the Palestinians are likely to stop bombing his country whilst he holds those opinions?

Oh no, they should continue to bomb Israel because of his opinions. Hmmm, bombing because of Ron Green’s opinions, a new level of absurdity has been reached.

Ah the conversation was being recorded by his relative. Please make sure you bring this to ant’s attention.

After reading the article, I really fail to see your point in posting it. It was exactly what Loewenstein posted here plus a little more at the end that didnt really back up any view I can imagine you holding captain.

No doubt you havent read the book Captain, but it was in the section of Loewenstein’s journey to Israel and Palestine, it is relavent as an experience of that journey.

It was also quite relavent to show Ron’s rather extreme view to show that some people do think like that even in Israel, right where it’s all happening. It raises all sorts of questions and promotes discussion. Does Ron serious think with that attitude that peace is attainable? (short of squashing the palestinians), Does he think that the Palestinians are likely to stop bombing his country whilst he holds those opinions?

Here’s your chance to engage in some real discussion captain, Do you disagree with the statements Ron made?

Why does it need to be clarified?

Captain wil argue next that Ant’s relatives should have had a lawyer present during all relevant discussions, otherwise their rights have been violated.

Notice how none of this discussion has anyting to do with arguing the facts in the book? Who is surprised?

There is nothing wrong with doing this if all parties are consenting to the process. And that is something that needs to be clarrified.

WQhy does it need to be clarified?

Here are some of the delightful opinions Ant’s relatives had to share:

Germany is the devil. I’ve never been there and never will. And my children, luckily, share the same view.

You can’t be pro-Palestinian without being anti-Israel. But you can be be Pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian.

I’ve never read in the Israeli press any incitement or hatred of Arabs. Never.

We should be harder on the Palestinians… Only force will make them understand.

The world hates Jews and hates Israel.

I don’t care if the Palestinians are suffering. We must come first.

The checkpoints, the wall and bypass roads are all necessary…

I don’t know of any Arab or Palestinian academic or protester or individual, except for a few, that don’t hate Israel and Jews.

Oh, and quiet? Its because Ant censors most of my posts. Simple as that. He does not tolerate dissent

‘And why should we believe your version of events’

Your bitching about cencorship is dissent itself, as someone said before why would ant delete your posts (unless they went against the comment rules) and not delete the ones claiming he deleted them.

nice evasion of my questions yet again

ok we have now evaded 1 of your questions, 200 more and we should be even I reckon

Did they know they were fodder for your book? Why should we accept your version of what transpired?

Because there would be absolutely no point in Ant putting views against his own (ie. his uncles, or whoever it was) in his book, because the piece the relative wrote at the begining of this thread would suggest that his views were along those lines. Even if ant was to lie in the book about it, to what end? the other option being his relative actually agreed with him (which seems somewhat more benefitial than his dissent).

also if you are so concerned about posts being deleted, copy them to a word doc beforehand so you can repost them later when your whinging about it, then maybe we can engage with the (no-doubt) meaningless drivel that you normally write.