Comments on: It exists http://antonyloewenstein.com/2006/08/30/it-exists/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:00:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ian http://antonyloewenstein.com/2006/08/30/it-exists/comment-page-1/#comment-12174 Ian Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:14:07 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/08/30/it-exists/#comment-12174 <blockquote>Excuse my ignorance but couldn’t Baztab have got it from Hezballah’s broadcast service anyway? It’s available on the web and its the kind of thing Hezballah would have been pretty keen to broadcast I would think</blockquote> Possibly, in which case you'd have to assume that the AIPAC believes anyone who visits the Hezbollah site is forging a tie with a "terrorist organization" In which case I'm glad I've never gone there. I can do without a AFP/ASIO Control Order!

Excuse my ignorance but couldn’t Baztab have got it from Hezballah’s broadcast service anyway? It’s available on the web and its the kind of thing Hezballah would have been pretty keen to broadcast I would think

Possibly, in which case you'd have to assume that the AIPAC believes anyone who visits the Hezbollah site is forging a tie with a "terrorist organization"

In which case I'm glad I've never gone there. I can do without a AFP/ASIO Control Order!

]]> By: Suze http://antonyloewenstein.com/2006/08/30/it-exists/comment-page-1/#comment-12142 Suze Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:12:38 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/08/30/it-exists/#comment-12142 Actually Milbank was obviously reporting on that Cair forum in your link Addamo- he reports the Wolfowitz question- but not Walt's full answer- classic selective reporting totally free of context. What a steaming load of biased BS. Actually Milbank was obviously reporting on that Cair forum in your link Addamo- he reports the Wolfowitz question- but not Walt's full answer- classic selective reporting totally free of context. What a steaming load of biased BS.

]]> By: Suze http://antonyloewenstein.com/2006/08/30/it-exists/comment-page-1/#comment-12140 Suze Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:08:50 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/08/30/it-exists/#comment-12140 <blockquote>Um…if Baztab knew something that only terrorists holding the IDF soldiers could know, then doesn’t that mean the claim of “a military attack on Hezbollah in September or October” must be true?</blockquote> Excuse my ignorance but couldn't Baztab have got it from Hezballah's broadcast service anyway? It's available on the web and its the kind of thing Hezballah would have been pretty keen to broadcast I would think- they're hardly likely to keep that kind of info under wraps?

Um…if Baztab knew something that only terrorists holding the IDF soldiers could know, then doesn’t that mean the claim of “a military attack on Hezbollah in September or October” must be true?

Excuse my ignorance but couldn't Baztab have got it from Hezballah's broadcast service anyway? It's available on the web and its the kind of thing Hezballah would have been pretty keen to broadcast I would think- they're hardly likely to keep that kind of info under wraps?

]]> By: Ian http://antonyloewenstein.com/2006/08/30/it-exists/comment-page-1/#comment-12113 Ian Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:57:45 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/08/30/it-exists/#comment-12113 <blockquote>Baztab's report claimed that the soldiers had admitted that Israel planned a military attack on Hezbollah in September or October, and the kidnapping had foiled this plan. Based on this report and other information published on the site, AIPAC concluded that Baztab, which is supported by an American server, has ties with a terrorist organization</blockquote> Um...if Baztab knew something that only terrorists holding the IDF soldiers could know, then doesn't that mean the claim of "a military attack on Hezbollah in September or October" must be true? For that matter, how does AIPAC know its true? Did they take part in the planning, perhaps? Should we therefore conclude that AIPAC is involved in war crimes? Or were they simply given a warning of the impending war crime so they could prepare the spin? So many questions, so few likely truthful answers! SIGH!!

Baztab's report claimed that the soldiers had admitted that Israel planned a military attack on Hezbollah in September or October, and the kidnapping had foiled this plan.

Based on this report and other information published on the site, AIPAC concluded that Baztab, which is supported by an American server, has ties with a terrorist organization

Um…if Baztab knew something that only terrorists holding the IDF soldiers could know, then doesn't that mean the claim of "a military attack on Hezbollah in September or October" must be true?

For that matter, how does AIPAC know its true? Did they take part in the planning, perhaps?

Should we therefore conclude that AIPAC is involved in war crimes?

Or were they simply given a warning of the impending war crime so they could prepare the spin?

So many questions, so few likely truthful answers! SIGH!!

]]> By: Addamo_01 http://antonyloewenstein.com/2006/08/30/it-exists/comment-page-1/#comment-12111 Addamo_01 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:21:24 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/08/30/it-exists/#comment-12111 Guys, You really have to watch this C-Span presentation. Walt and Mearsheimer both give superb presenations post Lebanon. Mearsheimer's presenation itself is a massive indictement on the power of the Israeli lobby. Guys,

You really have to watch this C-Span presentation. Walt and Mearsheimer both give superb presenations post Lebanon. Mearsheimer's presenation itself is a massive indictement on the power of the Israeli lobby.

]]> By: Addamo_01 http://antonyloewenstein.com/2006/08/30/it-exists/comment-page-1/#comment-12103 Addamo_01 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:50:54 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/08/30/it-exists/#comment-12103 Yes Dana, Let's ingnore that AIPAC is urging the U.S. to shut down an Iranian News Web site in the US. <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=755379" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintA...</a> Or that this documnetary was aired on C-Span this month: Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy <a href="http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14752.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1...</a> Yes Dana,

Let's ingnore that AIPAC is urging the U.S. to shut down an Iranian News Web site in the US.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintA…

Or that this documnetary was aired on C-Span this month:

Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1…

]]> By: Glenn Condell http://antonyloewenstein.com/2006/08/30/it-exists/comment-page-1/#comment-12101 Glenn Condell Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:25:20 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/08/30/it-exists/#comment-12101 Milbank is a hack; which is why he's done so well over there. Dig the barely suppressed teeth-baring contempt. Mearsheimer/Walt have started the conversation there as Ant has done here, and those rusted into their sinecures by virtue of their submission to the Lobby (among other power structures) are getting nervous and flailing about with graceless, scattergun attacks like this. It is a good sign. Milbank is a hack; which is why he's done so well over there. Dig the barely suppressed teeth-baring contempt. Mearsheimer/Walt have started the conversation there as Ant has done here, and those rusted into their sinecures by virtue of their submission to the Lobby (among other power structures) are getting nervous and flailing about with graceless, scattergun attacks like this. It is a good sign.

]]> By: Suze http://antonyloewenstein.com/2006/08/30/it-exists/comment-page-1/#comment-12094 Suze Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:21:48 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/08/30/it-exists/#comment-12094 What tripe- attacking pronunciation, and arguing the margins instead of addressing the issue. Interestingly two members of the <a href="http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/analysis.aspx?id=17318" rel="nofollow">AIPAC</a> lobby have just been indicted under the espionage act for obtaining classified defense info from the Pentagon. What tripe- attacking pronunciation, and arguing the margins instead of addressing the issue.
Interestingly two members of the AIPAC lobby have just been indicted under the espionage act for obtaining classified defense info from the Pentagon.

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