Antony Loewenstein

18 Responses to “Just what we need…”

1. 1 Ian
   Jan 27th, 2007 at 4:11 pm

   Wonder if Qantas will refuse to carry wearers?

2. 2 Addamo
   Jan 27th, 2007 at 4:57 pm

   Let’s flog them over at Tim Blair’s blog. We’ll make a fortune.

3. 3 Kamangir
   Jan 27th, 2007 at 5:12 pm

   Let’s thank Ahmadinejad for that.

4. 4 ajay
   Jan 27th, 2007 at 8:53 pm

   These are NOT conservatives, they may be casual neo-fascists, but they are not conservatives, that is just dis-information.

5. 5 Suze
   Jan 27th, 2007 at 11:24 pm

   So how do you provoke a war at short notice? - Maybe by classifying Iraqis of Iranian origin as “agents of Tehran” and then issuing the order that they be killed.

6. 6 E. Mariyani
   Jan 28th, 2007 at 12:24 am

   The shirt’s not bad, but for real style, you gotta go for the belt buckle of bullets fashioned to resemble the USA flag. Bloody booodiful.

7. 7 Addamo
   Jan 28th, 2007 at 1:57 am

   Let’s thank Ahmadinejad for that.

   If it was Ahmadinejad shooting it’s mouth off, the west would have found another reason. Cheney has been working on a strike on Iran for 6 years. 2 years before Ahmadinejad became a household name.

   In 2003, Iran made a peace offering with the US, to normalise relations with Washington, Wash it’s hands of Hezbollha/Hamas and enter into a peace process with Israel. Washington rejected the offer because talking to Tehran woud lhave meant not bombing them.

8. 8 Kamangir
   Jan 28th, 2007 at 10:52 am

   Addamo,
   The fact is that Ahmadinejad is making everything worse. While there exists a home-grown trouble-maker, I do not blame others. Why do you think anyone should care for Iranian’s well-being, if Iranians themselves don’t?

9. 9 E. Mariyani
   Jan 28th, 2007 at 2:36 pm

   Why do you think anyone should care for Iranian’s well-being, if Iranians themselves don’t?

   The premise of the rhetorical question is implicitly racist: that Iranians as a people don’t care about their own well-being - i.e. are not quite human. This fits neatly into the current insane anti-scholarship being pushed by an Israeli “professor”: that Iranian Muslims are inhuman messianic death-dealers who want to destroy all life of Earth (literally).

   The answer to the question of why anyone should care about Iranians is the same answer one would give, if one were not racist, for any group: Because it is moral to care about other human beings; especially when we now know - thanks to Iraq - what kind of hell the USA neo-cons would like to dish out to the citizens of Iran. If anything is inhuman, it is to merely say “meh” to the prospect of such a public gutting and burning of humanity.

10. 10 Adam
    Jan 28th, 2007 at 2:47 pm

    Does the t-shirt say “I nuke Iran” or “I’ve been nuked by Iran”.

    The later makes more sense for the Americans. If I’m not mistaken I could classify this t-shirt expression as inciting racial hatred.

    How would America react (assuming its an American made/sponsored t-shirt) if there was a T-shirt which showed the following “I (picture of burning twin towers) America” which was worn by people around the world?

    America the civilised world policing the world (cough) (cough)

11. 11 Kamangir
    Jan 28th, 2007 at 6:29 pm

    Mariyani,
    I wish we could discuss these matters with less prejudgment. For you information, I am an Iranian.

12. 12 E. Mariyani
    Jan 29th, 2007 at 12:40 am

    Kamangir on Jan 28th, 2007 at 6:29 pm

    I wish we could discuss these matters with less prejudgment. For you information, I am an Iranian.

    The comment isn’t about you, it’s about the comment. To say that IranIANS, with no qualifier whatsoever, thereby implicating Iranians as a people, don’t care about their own well-being is a patent absurdity which runs seemlessly together with the dehumanising rhetoric which is currently being constructed.

13. 13 Addamo
    Jan 29th, 2007 at 2:37 am

    Kamangir,

    Why do you think anyone should care for Iranian’s well-being, if Iranians themselves don’t?

    Your question makes no sense. What evidence is there that Iranians don’t care for their won well-being. Ahmadinejad’s popularity is already sopping ,like a lead balloon, though you wont hear that reported here in the West. Even so, there is a reason why Iran is called a theocracy - because Ahmadinejad has little power in Iran.

    As you know, Ahmadinejad’s statement was mistranslated. He said nothing about wiping Israel off the map. In fact, while lunatics war mongers like Netanyahu are insisting that Iran is about to launch genocide against Israel, 25,000 Iranian Jews remain in Iran and have ignored calls by Israel to leave.

    In the mean time, Israel and the US are planning to bomb Iran, for doing what they are legalyl entitled to under the NPT. There is not a shred of evidence that a nuclear weapons program exists.

    All you hear here in the West is that Iran called the US the Great Satan, which is supposed to be evidence of Iranian extremism, while no one seems to mind Bush referring to Iran as part fo the axis of Evil.

    The US blames Iran for their woes in Iraq, and demands that Iran stop meddling, yet the US and Israel has agents inside Iran and has backed the MEK to set off bombs in Iran to create civil unrest.

    Iran have been been extraordinary in their restraint since the overthrow of Mossadegh.

    - They endured 25 years under the Shah and his secret police that dissapeared 10’s of thousands of Iranians.

    - They lost half a million people in the decade long war with Iraq that Iraq stated and whom the US supported.

    - They lost 290 people in an Iranian Aribus that was shot down by a missile by the US Nazy, while the plane was in Iranian air space.

    - They were rebuffed when they made a huge peace offering to the US in 2003, which included entering into peace talks with Israel and distancing itself from Hamas/Hezbollah. They even offered to put their nuclear power program on the table.

    Not once have Iran retaliated in anger. That is a testament to the Iranian people.

    Now, who are you blaming again?

14. 14 Kamangir
    Jan 29th, 2007 at 3:33 pm

    E. Mariyani,
    Chakerim. Do you think we can do this discussion when you might feel a bit less angry?

15. 15 Kamangir
    Jan 29th, 2007 at 4:05 pm

    Antony,
    You might like this, regarding the T-shirt.

16. 16 E. Mariyani
    Jan 29th, 2007 at 10:39 pm

    Kamangir @ Jan 29th, 2007 at 3:33 pm

    Chakerim. Do you think we can do this discussion when you might feel a bit less angry?

    Permisi. I’m not angry. Read my statements in a monotone voice to see that this is true.

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