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	<title>Comments on: Independent Jewish Voices, stage two</title>
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		<title>By: Fringe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fringe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 03:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it&#039;s sour grapes as Benz and gottcha (is that JFBeck in drag?) were the only folk who turned up at the Australians Against Independent Jewish Voices meeting. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it&#039;s sour grapes as Benz and gottcha (is that JFBeck in drag?) were the only folk who turned up at the Australians Against Independent Jewish Voices meeting. </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 07:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any group that can pull several hundred people into a physical space for something as boring as a meeting is a group that is doing well. 
Most such groups would struggle to get 50.  
 
I wasn&#039;t there so i can&#039;t comment beyond that but if you think this effort is so piddling BenZ, then I challenge you to pick a cause and match the feat.  I will bring the towel to help you wipe the egg off your face when it doesn&#039;t work out as easy as you planned. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any group that can pull several hundred people into a physical space for something as boring as a meeting is a group that is doing well.<br />
Most such groups would struggle to get 50.  </p>
<p>I wasn&#039;t there so i can&#039;t comment beyond that but if you think this effort is so piddling BenZ, then I challenge you to pick a cause and match the feat.  I will bring the towel to help you wipe the egg off your face when it doesn&#039;t work out as easy as you planned. </p>
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		<title>By: BenZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BenZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 14:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I was then asked to speak about Independent Australian Jewish Voices (IAJV), its successes and future challenges. The fact that we&#8217;ve already claimed roughly the same number of signatories than in the UK proved there was an appetite in Australia for a more open debate on the Middle East.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
No, it proves you aren&#039;t very good at maths. 
 
Of course we know your true feelings on &quot;open debate&quot; don&#039;t we Antony? 
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Last night I attended the second only public meeting of Independent Jewish Voices (IJV) in central London. ...The aim of the get-together was to plan future directions for the group and continue the wonderful momentum created by the launch in February.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
Second meeting? A few hundred people (out of a population in the six figures?). Wow. Love that momentum! 
 
Of course you only attained 4-500 signatures locally (including the anonymous ones) and you too were hoping for 1000. Is it possible, in your narrow mind, that your opinions aren&#039;t actually as popular as you think? Of course not. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I was then asked to speak about Independent Australian Jewish Voices (IAJV), its successes and future challenges. The fact that we&rsquo;ve already claimed roughly the same number of signatories than in the UK proved there was an appetite in Australia for a more open debate on the Middle East.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it proves you aren&#039;t very good at maths. </p>
<p>Of course we know your true feelings on &quot;open debate&quot; don&#039;t we Antony? </p>
<blockquote><p>Last night I attended the second only public meeting of Independent Jewish Voices (IJV) in central London. &#8230;The aim of the get-together was to plan future directions for the group and continue the wonderful momentum created by the launch in February.</p></blockquote>
<p>Second meeting? A few hundred people (out of a population in the six figures?). Wow. Love that momentum! </p>
<p>Of course you only attained 4-500 signatures locally (including the anonymous ones) and you too were hoping for 1000. Is it possible, in your narrow mind, that your opinions aren&#039;t actually as popular as you think? Of course not. </p>
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