Comments on: Beijing uses oppressed blacks to justify oppressing Tibetans http://antonyloewenstein.com/2009/11/15/beijing-uses-oppressed-blacks-to-justify-oppressing-tibetans/ Thu, 24 May 2012 13:43:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: r hirsch http://antonyloewenstein.com/2009/11/15/beijing-uses-oppressed-blacks-to-justify-oppressing-tibetans/comment-page-1/#comment-539618 r hirsch Sun, 04 Jul 2010 06:32:55 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/?p=15856#comment-539618 Regardless of the demerits of China's approach to the Tibetans or of poor justifications for certain Israeli actions, I'm amazed at JohnD's blanket condemnation of Israel as "an obnoxious and completely disgusting society"- in comparison to which others? I'd love to know what particular qualities he's referring to, and in what ways they're so much more objectionable in the relative sense to Chinese, American, Saudi, German, British, Egyptian policies or cultures, etc.?   It's fascinating how by their exclusion of criticism for Israel's Arabic neighbors, certain individuals imply these countries' superiority to Israeli society, which is burdened by greater equality for women, freedom of press, emphasis upon education, democratic governance, vibrancy of economics, technological innovation, and the like. The latter being of course so much more imperfect than its neighbors.   Reminds me of all the recent criticism of Israel's Gaza blockade, which is not so unlike Egypt's Gaza blockade, except that no one in the world press seems to know or care about the latter- I guess that it's unfair for non-Arabs to block Arabs in any way (it's simply a privilege of other Arabs, and us non-Arabs are too ethnocentric to properly understand it).   Enough said. Regardless of the demerits of China's approach to the Tibetans or of poor justifications for certain Israeli actions, I'm amazed at JohnD's blanket condemnation of Israel as "an obnoxious and completely disgusting society"- in comparison to which others? I'd love to know what particular qualities he's referring to, and in what ways they're so much more objectionable in the relative sense to Chinese, American, Saudi, German, British, Egyptian policies or cultures, etc.?

 

It's fascinating how by their exclusion of criticism for Israel's Arabic neighbors, certain individuals imply these countries' superiority to Israeli society, which is burdened by greater equality for women, freedom of press, emphasis upon education, democratic governance, vibrancy of economics, technological innovation, and the like. The latter being of course so much more imperfect than its neighbors.

 

Reminds me of all the recent criticism of Israel's Gaza blockade, which is not so unlike Egypt's Gaza blockade, except that no one in the world press seems to know or care about the latter- I guess that it's unfair for non-Arabs to block Arabs in any way (it's simply a privilege of other Arabs, and us non-Arabs are too ethnocentric to properly understand it).

 

Enough said.

]]> By: JohD http://antonyloewenstein.com/2009/11/15/beijing-uses-oppressed-blacks-to-justify-oppressing-tibetans/comment-page-1/#comment-532670 JohD Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:40:13 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/?p=15856#comment-532670 Unfortunately that is exactly what the regime under the Dalai Lama feudal system was; oppressive slavery. Israel would have quite a time claiming that their system of Jewish Apartheid was a remotely similar situation. I opposed Israeli Jewish Apartheid, and I opposed Tibetan Feudal Nationalistic Religious Fundamentalist slavery; hardly a contradiction at all. You believe that there is a contradiction because you still do not understand that Israel is an obnoxious and completely disgusting society, with few redemptive qualities China is merely a repressive and closed society in comparison.  Unfortunately that is exactly what the regime under the Dalai Lama feudal system was; oppressive slavery.

Israel would have quite a time claiming that their system of Jewish Apartheid was a remotely similar situation.

I opposed Israeli Jewish Apartheid, and I opposed Tibetan Feudal Nationalistic Religious Fundamentalist slavery; hardly a contradiction at all.

You believe that there is a contradiction because you still do not understand that Israel is an obnoxious and completely disgusting society, with few redemptive qualities

China is merely a repressive and closed society in comparison. 

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