Comments on: Any chance of real engagement, Tel Aviv? http://antonyloewenstein.com/2010/01/08/any-chance-of-real-engagement-tel-aviv/ Thu, 24 May 2012 13:43:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Kevin Charles Herber http://antonyloewenstein.com/2010/01/08/any-chance-of-real-engagement-tel-aviv/comment-page-1/#comment-534616 Kevin Charles Herber Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:48:26 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/?p=17352#comment-534616   Liebler is a desperate person as the wheels are gradually coming off his "Zionism must succeed" position. I reckon Isi & his brother Mark must by now be wondering what happened to their dream of Greater Israel. As for the Barak "peace offer', what a load of crap...there is not one iota of evidence to support its existence. I subscribe to the view that far right Zionism has been successfully & permanently derailed by the power of the internet. The post 1945 anti-democratic delegitimisation of opponents of the international far right Zionist lobby, has been comprehensively routed by the free flow of information around the globe.  
Liebler is a desperate person as the wheels are gradually coming off his "Zionism must succeed" position.
I reckon Isi & his brother Mark must by now be wondering what happened to their dream of Greater Israel.
As for the Barak "peace offer', what a load of crap…there is not one iota of evidence to support its existence.
I subscribe to the view that far right Zionism has been successfully & permanently derailed by the power of the internet. The post 1945 anti-democratic delegitimisation of opponents of the international far right Zionist lobby, has been comprehensively routed by the free flow of information around the globe.

]]> By: Aaron http://antonyloewenstein.com/2010/01/08/any-chance-of-real-engagement-tel-aviv/comment-page-1/#comment-534582 Aaron Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:00:13 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/?p=17352#comment-534582 Ah yes, Olmert's mysterious offer of peace, the terms of which weren't clear, and which was never actually committed to paper. Ah yes, Olmert's mysterious offer of peace, the terms of which weren't clear, and which was never actually committed to paper.

]]> By: Maronite http://antonyloewenstein.com/2010/01/08/any-chance-of-real-engagement-tel-aviv/comment-page-1/#comment-534573 Maronite Fri, 08 Jan 2010 11:24:56 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/?p=17352#comment-534573 The best way to start of a peace process would be to close down those awful road blocks (In which many a time women are forced to give birth at the behest of Israeli soldiers). I've never seen in my life a system where the aggressors say they want peace but they continue to oppress on a day to day basis the people in which they need to negotiate with. The Israeli's don't treat the Palestinians like dirt, they treat them worse than dirt. Another deception for the Goys of the world. Probably what needs to happen first is a change in the attitude of Israeli society, they (the majority) believe that the Palestinians, who gave up their homeland for the Jews, deserve to be suppressed. This "chosen people" doctrine also has to go and has no place in a democracy, to which Israel claims to be a vibrant one. I personally know some people who live in the South of Lebanon and the occupation there was terrible and the Israeli's showed nothing but contempt for their neighbours from the very start (which was the culminating phase in which Hezbollah was born). Israel is a Middle Eastern country how do they expect to have peace with the arab world when they beleive the arabic people to be inferior people and a people who do not count? Hitler said the Jews were sub-human did Nazi Germany survive? The fall of Israeli society won't come from Anti-Semitism it will come from within. Period. The best way to start of a peace process would be to close down those awful road blocks (In which many a time women are forced to give birth at the behest of Israeli soldiers). I've never seen in my life a system where the aggressors say they want peace but they continue to oppress on a day to day basis the people in which they need to negotiate with. The Israeli's don't treat the Palestinians like dirt, they treat them worse than dirt. Another deception for the Goys of the world.

Probably what needs to happen first is a change in the attitude of Israeli society, they (the majority) believe that the Palestinians, who gave up their homeland for the Jews, deserve to be suppressed. This "chosen people" doctrine also has to go and has no place in a democracy, to which Israel claims to be a vibrant one. I personally know some people who live in the South of Lebanon and the occupation there was terrible and the Israeli's showed nothing but contempt for their neighbours from the very start (which was the culminating phase in which Hezbollah was born). Israel is a Middle Eastern country how do they expect to have peace with the arab world when they beleive the arabic people to be inferior people and a people who do not count? Hitler said the Jews were sub-human did Nazi Germany survive? The fall of Israeli society won't come from Anti-Semitism it will come from within. Period.

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