Comments on: If America wants to push partition in Palestine, they’ve got a problem

By: Kevin Charles Herber

Kevin Charles Herber — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:22:03 +0000

Mitchell tells it like it is….the two state solution is fast becoming a spent idea.
The far right Zionists of Netanyahu's camp, and their rabid diaspora supporters globally, have only themselves to blame for this current debacle.
Even that Israeli war criminal Erik Scheineman saw the writing on the wall & started to process of returning the occupied territories to their rightful owners by vacating GAZA.
An Israeli contact of mine believe there's emerging the possibility of a schism between the far right & moderate elements of the IDF, which could see a civil war in Israel. I hope the zealots don't have the nuclear weapons codes.
The ageing, increasingly irrevelent " Aussie 'Zionism can do no wrong" lobby have a lot to answer for their contribution to the steady demise of the two State solution.
All round, it's a very worrying situation.

By: Kevin Charles Herber

Kevin Charles Herber — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:13:17 +0000

Mitchel tells it like it is….the two state solution is a spent idea.

The far right Zionists of Netanyahu's camp have themselves to blame for this current debacle.

Even that Israeli war pig Erik Scheineman saw the writing on the wall & started to process of returning the occupied territories to their rightful owners by vacating GAZA.

The ageing Aussie 'Zionism can do no wrong' lobby led by Frank Lowy, Mark Liebler et al have a lot to answer for as far as their contribution to the demise of the two State solution.

By: Mallee

Mallee — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 13:34:34 +0000

Shaun,

you raise the aspect that I have referred to before, the Arabs were Semites were they not? My history knowledge on the sons of Abraham going one way and another going another way is a bit rusty, nevtheless they were Semites. (?)

They are a separate lot to the descendants of the Ashkenazis, are they not? So what if the Ashkenazis went and reclaimed their ancestral area in Southern Russia and left the Palestinians, Arabs, Semites, whether Jews or whatever, alone.

By the way, I want my forebears castles, titles, monasteries and lands back that were taken in Ireland, Scotland, England and in Prussia,
of all places (Yep, probably gives me some rights to move to Israel too, nah, probably, originally ashkenazi!).

'Compensation', I say and I only have to go back about 1,000 years.

Not to mention my pair of granparents who were unfairly sent to Tasmania as convicts…… love turns up in many strange places Shaun.

By: jonathon miller

jonathon miller — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:55:00 +0000

The land that we now know as Israel/Palestine is an historically fluid entity. For the past 4000 years this land has been occupied by imperial states and governed from outside. Until 1948, that is. The Israelites were part of a long list of occupiers, roughly 77 years (1000-923). The Zionist narrative references this historical period as a justification for the need to re-conquer and re-occupy mandatory Palestine. The Zionist narrative does not claim indigeneity over mandatory Palestine, but emphasises its period of imperial conquest, in a 'millenial-like' fashion.
regards.

By: Gert

Gert — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:35:23 +0000

Shaun:

I take it then that you would have no problem with the Native American Indians claiming back their ancestral homelands? What about the Aborigines?

'The Jews are simply taking back what was stolen from them.'

This one goes in my file, in case you ever here claim to be in favour of peace.

You are essentially justifying a modern day crime on the basis of an alleged crime that took place x,000 years ago.

I suddenly seem remember that one of your ancestors slapped one of my ancestors in the face, x,000 years, ago. What should I do, Shaun? Take it out on you?

By: Shaun

Shaun — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:14:04 +0000

Actually the most appropriate term would be liberators. These Jews are the direct descendants of the original settlers of the land. Jews predate Arabs in the region by nearly two thousand years. If anyone is a coloniser or stealing land, it is the Arabs. The Jews are simply taking back what was stolen from them. Shabbat Shalom all.

By: john

john — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:24:54 +0000

Maronite
You are correct in using colonize. We have to stop using settlements and say colonies.The change of one word can alter the conversation.

By: Maronite

Maronite — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 18:00:00 +0000

It's Israel own fault if it becomes dissolved by the Arab population. Who the hell told them to colnize the West Bank??