Comments on: Bin Laden dead? http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/ Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:01:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Anonymous http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259398 Anonymous Wed, 04 May 2005 07:02:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259398 I wouldn't be so quick to rule out the "Osama is dead" stories as conspiracy theories or whatever label we apply to speculative ideas we don't like.<br/><br/>The way I look at we have to ask "how many saudi billionaires can't afford a sony handycam?" . Apparently Osama either (a) hasn't got one, (b) doesn't want to appear on one or is (c) dead. <br/><br/>If we rule out a and c that leaves b. Presumably he plans to lead his world revolution by telepathy. I wouldn’t be so quick to rule out the “Osama is dead” stories as conspiracy theories or whatever label we apply to speculative ideas we don’t like.

The way I look at we have to ask “how many saudi billionaires can’t afford a sony handycam?” . Apparently Osama either (a) hasn’t got one, (b) doesn’t want to appear on one or is (c) dead.

If we rule out a and c that leaves b. Presumably he plans to lead his world revolution by telepathy.

]]> By: Anonymous http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259365 Anonymous Mon, 02 May 2005 22:33:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259365 Right, insult my intelligence, thanks, lovely. I know you on the left always think you're smarter than us mere proles, but in the meantime, have a gander at this re: the boycott:<br/><br/>http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1114913918708<br/><br/>'The Web site of Sue Blackwell, the Birmingham lecturer who presented motions calling for boycotts of Israeli universities, contains a recommended link to a Web site owned by an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi activist. Wendy Campbell, who owns the MarWen Media Web site, has promoted Holocaust denial and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories discussing "unrivaled Jewish power," and maintains an additional Web site entitled "Exposing Israeli Apartheid," which is also linked by Blackwell.<br/><br/>MarWen Media, which is linked directly from Blackwell's Web site, advocates the views of Kevin Macdonald, an anti-Semitic pro-Nazi author, who has claimed Jews are responsible for a "breeding program" to conquer other "races."<br/><br/>Under the heading "Sue Blackwell's links on Israel and Palestine," Blackwell provides a link to the MarWen site, along with the following description: "MarWen Media offers the latest in groundbreaking documentaries, breaking through barriers and taboos that mainstream media – and even most alternative media do not venture." Blackwell writes that "the documentaries, mostly about Israel, Zionism, and Palestine, are by Wendy Campbell; see her other site, Exposing Israeli Apartheid."<br/><br/>Combining anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, Holocaust denial and vilification of Israel, Campbell writes: "It is no accident that Israeli 'security' is now the centerpiece of US foreign policy. How are the highly placed "friends of Israel" able to bamboozle so much of the world?" '<br/><br/>I take it back, Ant. You're not a self-hating Jew. You're just a useful idiot. Right, insult my intelligence, thanks, lovely. I know you on the left always think you’re smarter than us mere proles, but in the meantime, have a gander at this re: the boycott:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1114913918708

‘The Web site of Sue Blackwell, the Birmingham lecturer who presented motions calling for boycotts of Israeli universities, contains a recommended link to a Web site owned by an anti-Semitic neo-Nazi activist. Wendy Campbell, who owns the MarWen Media Web site, has promoted Holocaust denial and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories discussing “unrivaled Jewish power,” and maintains an additional Web site entitled “Exposing Israeli Apartheid,” which is also linked by Blackwell.

MarWen Media, which is linked directly from Blackwell’s Web site, advocates the views of Kevin Macdonald, an anti-Semitic pro-Nazi author, who has claimed Jews are responsible for a “breeding program” to conquer other “races.”

Under the heading “Sue Blackwell’s links on Israel and Palestine,” Blackwell provides a link to the MarWen site, along with the following description: “MarWen Media offers the latest in groundbreaking documentaries, breaking through barriers and taboos that mainstream media – and even most alternative media do not venture.” Blackwell writes that “the documentaries, mostly about Israel, Zionism, and Palestine, are by Wendy Campbell; see her other site, Exposing Israeli Apartheid.”

Combining anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, Holocaust denial and vilification of Israel, Campbell writes: “It is no accident that Israeli ’security’ is now the centerpiece of US foreign policy. How are the highly placed “friends of Israel” able to bamboozle so much of the world?” ‘

I take it back, Ant. You’re not a self-hating Jew. You’re just a useful idiot.

]]> By: Antony Loewenstein http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259359 Antony Loewenstein Mon, 02 May 2005 04:34:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259359 One man's self-hater is another's truth teller.<br/>Pappe is a brave man. Reading his work is probably beyond you, no doubt.... One man’s self-hater is another’s truth teller.
Pappe is a brave man. Reading his work is probably beyond you, no doubt….

]]> By: Anonymous http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259357 Anonymous Mon, 02 May 2005 03:39:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259357 Ha! Ilan Pappe is one of the worst self-hating Jews around, and will happily lie (think Jenin) to push ill will towards Israel.<br/><br/>This is like saying you think an anti-American action has credibility because it's got Noam Chomsky on-side... Ha! Ilan Pappe is one of the worst self-hating Jews around, and will happily lie (think Jenin) to push ill will towards Israel.

This is like saying you think an anti-American action has credibility because it’s got Noam Chomsky on-side…

]]> By: Antony Loewenstein http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259354 Antony Loewenstein Mon, 02 May 2005 01:37:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259354 How is she a bigot? Read her last column for the Guardian re the Arab world. Check out her views on Israel, ignoring the racism suffered by the Arab minority there.<br/>As for the boycott, perhaps some of the people behind it are anti-Semitic, that's possible. But when somebody like Ilan Pappe, a man I respect hugely, perhaps Israel's bravest dissenter, supports the boycott and explains why (essentially, the situation is so desparate now, what choice do we have?), I share his view. How is she a bigot? Read her last column for the Guardian re the Arab world. Check out her views on Israel, ignoring the racism suffered by the Arab minority there.
As for the boycott, perhaps some of the people behind it are anti-Semitic, that’s possible. But when somebody like Ilan Pappe, a man I respect hugely, perhaps Israel’s bravest dissenter, supports the boycott and explains why (essentially, the situation is so desparate now, what choice do we have?), I share his view.

]]> By: Anonymous http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259353 Anonymous Mon, 02 May 2005 01:00:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259353 Why do you support the boycott? Just curious, but it seems like the sort of thing that really crosses the line from criticizing Israel to being anti-Semitic, with a fair dose of thought policing thrown in. <br/><br/>How is Burchill a bigot? Awfully strong word to just throw around. Why do you support the boycott? Just curious, but it seems like the sort of thing that really crosses the line from criticizing Israel to being anti-Semitic, with a fair dose of thought policing thrown in.

How is Burchill a bigot? Awfully strong word to just throw around.

]]> By: Antony Loewenstein http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259351 Antony Loewenstein Mon, 02 May 2005 00:38:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259351 Julie Burchill? Haaretz publishes her regularly. God knows why. She's a bigot, but OH SO FUNNY!<br/>i support the boycott, but that's another story.... Julie Burchill? Haaretz publishes her regularly. God knows why. She’s a bigot, but OH SO FUNNY!
i support the boycott, but that’s another story….

]]> By: Anonymous http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259350 Anonymous Sun, 01 May 2005 21:28:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259350 Sorry, click <a HREF="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=570880&contrassID=2&subContrassID=4&sbSubContrassID=0" REL="nofollow">here</a>. Sorry, click here.

]]> By: Anonymous http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259349 Anonymous Sun, 01 May 2005 21:27:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259349 Hey Ant, I know you don't do the open-thread thing, but wondering what you thought of this article in your beloved Haaretz:<br/><br/>http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=570880&contrassID=2&subContrassID=4&sbSubContrassID=0<br/><br/>Cheers!<br/>Anonymous. Hey Ant, I know you don’t do the open-thread thing, but wondering what you thought of this article in your beloved Haaretz:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=570880&contrassID=2&subContrassID=4&sbSubContrassID=0

Cheers!
Anonymous.

]]> By: Binnsy http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259345 Binnsy Sat, 30 Apr 2005 08:58:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/04/30/bin-laden-dead/#comment-259345 That brings the number of 'Osama is dead' conspiracy theories to approximately 49,342,986. Give or take. That brings the number of ‘Osama is dead’ conspiracy theories to approximately 49,342,986. Give or take.

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