Comments on: A real opposition http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/09/30/a-real-opposition/ Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:28:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Ibrahamav http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/09/30/a-real-opposition/#comment-261564 Ibrahamav Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:08:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/09/30/a-real-opposition/#comment-261564 Gaza and the West Bank are separated. Look at a map. They always have been. Gaza and the West Bank are separated. Look at a map. They always have been.

]]> By: Rowan Berkeley http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/09/30/a-real-opposition/#comment-261561 Rowan Berkeley Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:14:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/09/30/a-real-opposition/#comment-261561 Indeed he does, and I have recently unsubsubscribed myself from his mailing list, because I feel he is just providing a pseudo-left fig-leaf to the more and more transparent would-be leaders of the palestinian bantustans (plural, since it is now clear gaza and westbank will be separated). Indeed he does, and I have recently unsubsubscribed myself from his mailing list, because I feel he is just providing a pseudo-left fig-leaf to the more and more transparent would-be leaders of the palestinian bantustans (plural, since it is now clear gaza and westbank will be separated).

]]> By: Antony Loewenstein http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/09/30/a-real-opposition/#comment-261551 Antony Loewenstein Fri, 30 Sep 2005 05:43:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/09/30/a-real-opposition/#comment-261551 Gush Shalom isn't one of the largest peace groups in Israel, true enough. Many of the largest though, such as Peace Now, have in many ways supported Sharon over the last years, especially in relation to Gaza.<br/>Gush Shalom isn't far-left in my view at all, in fact, Uri Avnery, its head, whom I met some months ago in Tel Aviv, advocates a two-state solution. Gush Shalom isn’t one of the largest peace groups in Israel, true enough. Many of the largest though, such as Peace Now, have in many ways supported Sharon over the last years, especially in relation to Gaza.
Gush Shalom isn’t far-left in my view at all, in fact, Uri Avnery, its head, whom I met some months ago in Tel Aviv, advocates a two-state solution.

]]> By: anthony http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/09/30/a-real-opposition/#comment-261547 anthony Fri, 30 Sep 2005 05:17:00 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/09/30/a-real-opposition/#comment-261547 Antony, in a lecture at uni not long ago, I was told (wrongly I thought) the main Israeli based pressure/interest groups were; Peace Now, the Yesha Council, and B'Tselem.<br/><br/>My understanding of Gush Shalom (Peace Bloc?) is that it is a far-left peace group advocating one state (therefore the destruction of Israel) with around 300-500 members, based in Tel Aviv.<br/><br/>This is interesting because the lecturer used the theme of pressure groups to claim that Israel was not democratic, and the govt limited such groups. She didnt mention Gush Shalom.<br/><br/>I realise you do not consider Israel a democracy, but tell me- do you consider Gush Shalom a genuine activist group?? Antony, in a lecture at uni not long ago, I was told (wrongly I thought) the main Israeli based pressure/interest groups were; Peace Now, the Yesha Council, and B’Tselem.

My understanding of Gush Shalom (Peace Bloc?) is that it is a far-left peace group advocating one state (therefore the destruction of Israel) with around 300-500 members, based in Tel Aviv.

This is interesting because the lecturer used the theme of pressure groups to claim that Israel was not democratic, and the govt limited such groups. She didnt mention Gush Shalom.

I realise you do not consider Israel a democracy, but tell me- do you consider Gush Shalom a genuine activist group??

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