Get out the measuring stick

“It would be interesting to do a word count for mentions of the word “hero” in American public life, as compared with Britain, France or Germany. A hundred years ago, conservative nationalist Germans used to characterise the “true” Germans as heroes and the Jews as wheeler-dealers: Helden against Handler. Today, we have a different stereotype: true Americans as Helden and limp-wristed Europeans as Handler. Yet in practice, of course, you had the same mix of true bravery and, as one journalist on the spot noted, “real raw panic” in the response to Rita and Katrina as you would in most societies.”

Timothy Garton Ash, The Guardian, September 29

An Australian suggestion: a word count for mention of the words “un-Australian” and “anti-American” and an examination of their disproportionate use.

11 Responses to “Get out the measuring stick”


  1. 1 Glenn Condell

    I have made the comment elsewhere that Iraq has produced plenty of heroes, very few of them American and those, like Marla Ruzicka, either engaged in antiwar or NGO relief activity.

  2. 2 Ibrahamav

    How so? Or are you stating that the typical heroic efforts put forth by the typica; American soldier has become so routine as to longer be considered heroic?

    Or that the Iraqis, who have done little but kill each other over power, who show the least bit of initiative to do anything, that does not directly benefit them in the short run, by comparison to the rest of the Iraqis, is heroic?

  3. 3 leftvegdrunk

    Ibrahamav, the suggestion Glenn makes is that heroes need not have guns, nor be members of the world’s most powerful military force. Which part do you disagree with? It sounds like a balanced view to me. I suspect you disagree only because you can.

  4. 4 Ibrahamav

    I disagree with Glenn’s opinion of the number of heroes, what comprises a hero, and why antiwar events are heroic.

  5. 5 leftvegdrunk

    Fair enough. Care to define?

  6. 6 Ibrahamav

    Care to define what?

  7. 7 leftvegdrunk

    What, Ibrahamav, is your definition of a hero?

  8. 8 Andjam

    A hundred years ago, conservative nationalist Germans used to characterise the “true” Germans as heroes and the Jews as wheeler-dealers: Helden against Handler. Today, we have a different stereotype: true Americans as Helden and limp-wristed Europeans as Handler.

    It’s going to end with the USA murdering 6 million Europeans before the century is out. Advise Tim Dunlop to get out while he can.

  9. 9 Ibrahamav

    Andjam, Why do you say that? Or is it tongue and cheek?

  10. 10 Andjam

    Tongue in cheek.

  11. 11 Ibrahamav

    The standard definition applies.

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