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	<title>Comments on: Our leaders lie</title>
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		<title>By: anthony</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/10/31/our-leaders-lie/#comment-262970</link>
		<dc:creator>anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 05:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;After all, Western culture - whatever the hell that is - is far superior to, well, everything and everybody&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You don’t know what Western culture is Loewenstein? You seem to attack it often enough.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And yes, your right Western culture is superior. At first I thought you were being sarcastic, then I realised you certainly weren’t saying that the illiberal, un-secular and authoritarian Middle Eastern culture is better than the West.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>After all, Western culture - whatever the hell that is - is far superior to, well, everything and everybody</i></p>
<p>You don’t know what Western culture is Loewenstein? You seem to attack it often enough.</p>
<p>And yes, your right Western culture is superior. At first I thought you were being sarcastic, then I realised you certainly weren’t saying that the illiberal, un-secular and authoritarian Middle Eastern culture is better than the West.</p>
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		<title>By: boredinHK</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/10/31/our-leaders-lie/#comment-262923</link>
		<dc:creator>boredinHK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 03:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Hong Kong and here the chinese wish all foreigners would sod off!.&lt;br/&gt;And not just sod off but disappear - not in a horrible painful end of life way but just go away so the beauty and wonder of organised chinese society can get on with being itself.&lt;br/&gt;Most chinese I speak with are  aware of migration - the chinese being traders and migrants for 1000's of years but those movements are based on trade and improving their financial station.&lt;br/&gt;They don't go to London to become british . &lt;br/&gt;As a group they understand being taunted , vilified and while they resent such treatment, they  do exactly the same thing to others who come to greater china.&lt;br/&gt;The question they ask is why do foreigners want to come here anyway ?&lt;br/&gt;Do muslims go to Australia to become australian or to improve their financial position ? &lt;br/&gt;As migrants from places where the inhabitants themselves vilify the outsider why are they surprised when they receive the same treatment they would give others in their home ? The Koran is used to justify various forms of segregation , discrimination against women , slaves and non believers to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Hong Kong and here the chinese wish all foreigners would sod off!.<br />And not just sod off but disappear - not in a horrible painful end of life way but just go away so the beauty and wonder of organised chinese society can get on with being itself.<br />Most chinese I speak with are  aware of migration - the chinese being traders and migrants for 1000&#8217;s of years but those movements are based on trade and improving their financial station.<br />They don&#8217;t go to London to become british . <br />As a group they understand being taunted , vilified and while they resent such treatment, they  do exactly the same thing to others who come to greater china.<br />The question they ask is why do foreigners want to come here anyway ?<br />Do muslims go to Australia to become australian or to improve their financial position ? <br />As migrants from places where the inhabitants themselves vilify the outsider why are they surprised when they receive the same treatment they would give others in their home ? The Koran is used to justify various forms of segregation , discrimination against women , slaves and non believers to start.</p>
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		<title>By: Wombat</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/10/31/our-leaders-lie/#comment-262921</link>
		<dc:creator>Wombat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 02:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Howard still holidays in that cheap trailer park called Hawks Nest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Howard still holidays in that cheap trailer park called Hawks Nest?</p>
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		<title>By: Antony Loewenstein</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/10/31/our-leaders-lie/#comment-262917</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony Loewenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He lives in an Australia where he wishes Muslims were either absent...or silent.&lt;br/&gt;After all, Western culture - whatever the hell that is - is far superior to, well, everything and everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He lives in an Australia where he wishes Muslims were either absent&#8230;or silent.<br />After all, Western culture - whatever the hell that is - is far superior to, well, everything and everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Nu-Ju</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/10/31/our-leaders-lie/#comment-262916</link>
		<dc:creator>Nu-Ju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2005 00:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What australia are you living in mr shabadoo? You don't believe that many muslims have been both physically and verbally abused in the street post september 11 ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What australia are you living in mr shabadoo? You don&#8217;t believe that many muslims have been both physically and verbally abused in the street post september 11 ?</p>
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		<title>By: Shabadoo</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2005/10/31/our-leaders-lie/#comment-262913</link>
		<dc:creator>Shabadoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Puh-LEEZE!!! Abuse and obscenities? I'd like to see his notes on this conversation.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That Fisk opposed the toppling of the Taliban proves that himself, and the leftists that follow him, believe that there is only one acceptable position for the West: perpetually supine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Puh-LEEZE!!! Abuse and obscenities? I&#8217;d like to see his notes on this conversation.</p>
<p>That Fisk opposed the toppling of the Taliban proves that himself, and the leftists that follow him, believe that there is only one acceptable position for the West: perpetually supine.</p>
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