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		<title>By: Progressive Atheist</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/01/29/the-truth-lies-behind/#comment-269202</link>
		<dc:creator>Progressive Atheist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Why should his views be preferred over others?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Postmodern relativism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why should his views be preferred over others?</i></p>
<p>Postmodern relativism!</p>
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		<title>By: Wombat</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/01/29/the-truth-lies-behind/#comment-269201</link>
		<dc:creator>Wombat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take that as an admission that you are at a loss for an example of the lofty expectations you have laid out for AL.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;"Journalists however usually make others the subject of their enquiry."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Which journalists are you referring to?  Go on. Don't be scared.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now if you will only come clean with an explanation as to what it is you want AL to come clean about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take that as an admission that you are at a loss for an example of the lofty expectations you have laid out for AL.</p>
<p>&#8220;Journalists however usually make others the subject of their enquiry.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which journalists are you referring to?  Go on. Don&#8217;t be scared.</p>
<p>Now if you will only come clean with an explanation as to what it is you want AL to come clean about.</p>
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		<title>By: psydoc</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/01/29/the-truth-lies-behind/#comment-269200</link>
		<dc:creator>psydoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry, I don't know what a "jouiranlists" is.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Journalists however usually make others the subject of their enquiry. Not so with Ant and hence the onus on him to come clean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry, I don&#8217;t know what a &#8220;jouiranlists&#8221; is.</p>
<p>Journalists however usually make others the subject of their enquiry. Not so with Ant and hence the onus on him to come clean.</p>
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		<title>By: Wombat</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/01/29/the-truth-lies-behind/#comment-269196</link>
		<dc:creator>Wombat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this one:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;"Real journalists would answer such questions."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What real journaalist are you referring to Psydoc?  Tim Blair?  What journalists have come clean about their own complicity in selling the war to the public, and continuing to give free passes to governments who lie repeartedly and get away with their authority unblemished?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Who are these jouiranlists that don't repeat government BS as if it were fact.  Do tell.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You continue to maintain that AL owes somethign to you and the public, without ever explaining what that means.  It's a shame you don't hold those with real power to the same accountability. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You really are a hypocrite Psydoc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this one:</p>
<p>&#8220;Real journalists would answer such questions.&#8221;</p>
<p>What real journaalist are you referring to Psydoc?  Tim Blair?  What journalists have come clean about their own complicity in selling the war to the public, and continuing to give free passes to governments who lie repeartedly and get away with their authority unblemished?</p>
<p>Who are these jouiranlists that don&#8217;t repeat government BS as if it were fact.  Do tell.</p>
<p>You continue to maintain that AL owes somethign to you and the public, without ever explaining what that means.  It&#8217;s a shame you don&#8217;t hold those with real power to the same accountability. </p>
<p>You really are a hypocrite Psydoc.</p>
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		<title>By: psydoc</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/01/29/the-truth-lies-behind/#comment-269193</link>
		<dc:creator>psydoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, Adamm01 and Orang, there is a very real reason that the record needs to be set straight. It is because Ant is actually part of the story. He has nothing to add to the middle east debate other than his empty polemics. Why should his views be preferred over others? Does he actually have any qualifications? Does he only selectively present material here? Who does he actually represent? Real journalists would answer such questions.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It must be very comforting for Ant that the most erudite response in his defense comes from a sycopANT who needs to refer to my penis size.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He does have a case to answer just as he puts those under close scrutiny whom he believes to act unethically. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Macquarie University episode is an indictment on tertiary education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, Adamm01 and Orang, there is a very real reason that the record needs to be set straight. It is because Ant is actually part of the story. He has nothing to add to the middle east debate other than his empty polemics. Why should his views be preferred over others? Does he actually have any qualifications? Does he only selectively present material here? Who does he actually represent? Real journalists would answer such questions.</p>
<p>It must be very comforting for Ant that the most erudite response in his defense comes from a sycopANT who needs to refer to my penis size.</p>
<p>He does have a case to answer just as he puts those under close scrutiny whom he believes to act unethically. </p>
<p>The Macquarie University episode is an indictment on tertiary education.</p>
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		<title>By: Wombat</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/01/29/the-truth-lies-behind/#comment-269190</link>
		<dc:creator>Wombat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Only at Blair's would he be able to brag."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wonder if we took a poll how many Tim Blariistes would say they believed Iran had nukes.  Psydoc seems to think it's a given.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Once again, ideology trumps logic, reason and evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Only at Blair&#8217;s would he be able to brag.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder if we took a poll how many Tim Blariistes would say they believed Iran had nukes.  Psydoc seems to think it&#8217;s a given.</p>
<p>Once again, ideology trumps logic, reason and evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: James Waterton</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/01/29/the-truth-lies-behind/#comment-269181</link>
		<dc:creator>James Waterton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'yes, yes, we want justice for the blacks, but because of their justifiable hatred of the whites, they will massacre them, so to avoid that we must maintain the current power-structure.'&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Who was making that argument? I doubt the Afrikaaners in power were. Anyway, sure, nothing is static. However some problems are more intractable than others, and we're talking about some rather insurmountable cultural differences that, in my analysis, are unlikely to erode with time. Due to the cultural traits of many Muslim Palestinians, I strongly doubt they will ever agree to live in an entity called Israel, even if relations between Palestinians and Israelis improves and even if they're guaranteed equal rights. In my estimation, a two state solution is the only acceptable outcome for both sides now and into the future. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thus, I think it's extremely difficult to say "I support the continued existence of Israel and I support a one state solution." Keeping those two balls in the air isn't possible now and in the future, by my reckoning. You may not agree, but there you go. Anyway, that was the topic at hand, and that's what I was commenting on. Perceived injustices etc I wasn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;yes, yes, we want justice for the blacks, but because of their justifiable hatred of the whites, they will massacre them, so to avoid that we must maintain the current power-structure.&#8217;</p>
<p>Who was making that argument? I doubt the Afrikaaners in power were. Anyway, sure, nothing is static. However some problems are more intractable than others, and we&#8217;re talking about some rather insurmountable cultural differences that, in my analysis, are unlikely to erode with time. Due to the cultural traits of many Muslim Palestinians, I strongly doubt they will ever agree to live in an entity called Israel, even if relations between Palestinians and Israelis improves and even if they&#8217;re guaranteed equal rights. In my estimation, a two state solution is the only acceptable outcome for both sides now and into the future. </p>
<p>Thus, I think it&#8217;s extremely difficult to say &#8220;I support the continued existence of Israel and I support a one state solution.&#8221; Keeping those two balls in the air isn&#8217;t possible now and in the future, by my reckoning. You may not agree, but there you go. Anyway, that was the topic at hand, and that&#8217;s what I was commenting on. Perceived injustices etc I wasn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela M</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/01/29/the-truth-lies-behind/#comment-269177</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antony,&lt;br/&gt;What's your take on why the Third Way - the party of Salman Fayyad and Hanan Ashrawi which campaigned on an anti-corruption platform, but one which does NOT advocate the destruction of the State of Israel - only got 2 of 130 seats, compared to Hamas's 76?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antony,<br />What&#8217;s your take on why the Third Way - the party of Salman Fayyad and Hanan Ashrawi which campaigned on an anti-corruption platform, but one which does NOT advocate the destruction of the State of Israel - only got 2 of 130 seats, compared to Hamas&#8217;s 76?</p>
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		<title>By: orang</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/01/29/the-truth-lies-behind/#comment-269171</link>
		<dc:creator>orang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Heidelberg said...&lt;br/&gt;    "Well Captain (psydoc) - I noticed your comments at tim blair's, bragging about your trolling behaviour here."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You mean he's a SPtBYRD? &lt;br/&gt;(Small Penis tim Blair Yapping Running Dog)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Only at Blair's would he be able to brag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Heidelberg said&#8230;<br />    &#8220;Well Captain (psydoc) - I noticed your comments at tim blair&#8217;s, bragging about your trolling behaviour here.&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean he&#8217;s a SPtBYRD? <br />(Small Penis tim Blair Yapping Running Dog)</p>
<p>Only at Blair&#8217;s would he be able to brag.</p>
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		<title>By: Viva Peace</title>
		<link>http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/01/29/the-truth-lies-behind/#comment-269166</link>
		<dc:creator>Viva Peace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 07:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>antony&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am confused by what people mean by a "bi-national secular state." Maybe I am being naive  but surely "state" and "bi-national" are contradictory?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also what do people mean by a "secular" state. I have started reading Noam Chomsky and he often talks about a "bi-national secular state." What does this mean? How is it different from the current situation?</description>
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<p>I am confused by what people mean by a &#8220;bi-national secular state.&#8221; Maybe I am being naive  but surely &#8220;state&#8221; and &#8220;bi-national&#8221; are contradictory?</p>
<p>Also what do people mean by a &#8220;secular&#8221; state. I have started reading Noam Chomsky and he often talks about a &#8220;bi-national secular state.&#8221; What does this mean? How is it different from the current situation?</p>
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