What is happening?

While SBS Television censors a “controversial” episode of South Park, the Justice Minister is supposedly defending the use of torture. Today’s Crikey reports:

Federal Justice Minister Chris Ellison dropped a proverbial bomb at the Law Summer School in Perth yesterday during a debate on the lofty topic of the juxtaposition of anti-terrorism laws and the rule of law.

Lord Justice Kennedy and Professor HP Lee spoke, followed by a panel discussion including John North (Law Council president), Alexandra Richards QC and Senator Ellison, among others.

Eventually the subject was raised about what courts do with evidence obtained by torture. Lord Justice Kennedy responded in terms of an English House of Lords decision. Then came the Ellison bombshell when our Justice Minister openly declared that he had a policy of not asking if information was obtained by torture – the information was paramount, not the means of it being obtained.

He went on to say that the AFP would love to be able to torture people to get information if there was a bomb attack pending and they needed to know the details.

The rather stunned audience was then told that Amrosi and some of the other Bali bombers were convicted on evidence obtained by the Indonesian police using torture, but the AFP abided by Australian law in the investigation.

If true, makes me proud to be an Australian.

7 Responses to “What is happening?”


  1. 1 orang

    “He went on to say that the AFP would love to be able to torture people to get information if there was a bomb attack pending and they needed to know the details.”

    -Don’t tell me, this moron went to the Dershowitz school of “law”.

  2. 2 orang

    Hey Ant, I didn’t realize it before - your little banner, I thought it was some obscure paintings of Tom Sawyer & Huck Finn painting a fence.

    Now I realize which fence wall.

  3. 3 Antony Loewenstein

    Yep, the imagery on the site - and more coming soon - is from Banksy, UK artist. It’s pics taking of Israels “security” wall alongside his own art. And clearly, we’ve played around with the images.

  4. 4 pre-dawn leftist

    I read this today and had that uncomfortable feeling of wondering which country I woke up in again.

    Where the bloody hell are we?

    Its not my bloody Australia, thats for sure.

  5. 5 Progressive_Atheist

    According to my source inside SBS, the South Park episode was subject to a globally issued court order. SBS has no choice but to refrain from showing it.

  6. 6 edward squire

    globally issued court order

    Huh? From where? The Hague or Kentucky?

  7. 7 rhross

    Is there a link to the Chris Ellison comment? I looked at Crikey but could see no reference.

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