But it is interesting that you have now inserted the word ‘Dogma” for “practicies”, atering your original baseless assertion.

I would tend to agree that most christians are ignorant when it comes to their Dogam being essentially pagan in origin.

You don’t seem to have a point, just a petty arguement in which you insist that chritians are ignorant, and I say they are not.

How much more simple can I make it? I made a claim, provided evidence for said claim, you made a claim and refuse to do so - despite insisting others do the same on numerous occasions. Even if you don’t consider my personal experience sufficient evidence to stand as proof, at least it gives you some idea of where the claim originated. As far as I’m aware, your claim is just something you decided one day.

And your method of expanding my claims when paraphrasing is childish at best. My claim was and is that most christians are unaware of the pagan origins of much of their dogma. When you repeat it, though, it becomes a claim that christians are generally ‘ignorant’, ‘ignormamuses’, ’stupid’, ‘lazy’, ‘oafish’ and ‘blind’. What is the point to this?

You are realling tying yourself in knots with words though. How could anyone worship ‘a long forgotten creed’? If they’re worshipping it (nevermind in droves) how could it possibly be long forgotten?

I invite you to post all the polls you’d like showing the christians to be stupid, lazy, oafish, ignorant, blind worshippers of a long forgotten creed, and the like.

I see no reason to do so.

-I make a claim and back it up with evidence based on extensive personal experience.

-Anyone else makes a claim and you demand proof.

-You make a claim and you don’t see the point in bothering with proof.

I would ask if you see anything wrong with this picture, but it’s pretty clear you don’t. I’ve no doubt others would, regardless of what side of the political fence they happen to be on.

I don’t wish, nor do I see any need to list polls supporting my claims. I have substantial personal experience on which these claims are based. You can call that anecdotal if you like, but personal experience will always provide a better picture of reality than polls. The contradictions in your Palestinian poll proves that. I suggested you post polls because a. you obviously have no personal experience with the subject and 2. you seem to like polls.

By the way, the fact that you believe Christians consider their actions, gatherings & services ‘rituals’ shows your complete ignorance on the subject.

Of course, once more, I invite you to prove me wrong. If you have evidence that your claims and beliefs are correct, feel free to provide it. I am more than happy to consider it.

If you wish to list polls showing the majority of christians to be ignoramuses, do what you will. It matters not, to me.

I don’t seem to be struggling. Based on the comments received, it appears I am taken very seriously.

My claim was worth replying to when you were blowing steam, but when I clarified the extensive personal experience on which this claim is based and requested you provide proof of your own claim, all of a sudden the claim’s not worth bothering with? You’ll forgive me if I find this a little convenient.

It’s nothing to do with listing polls stating the ignorance of christians. It’s about being willing to support your claims with evidence. Something you seem to demand of others but something you yourself seem to be unwilling to do.

Perhaps one day you will learn the importance of holding yourself to the same standards as those to which you hold others. Until you learn that, I think you will struggle to get people to take you seriously.

Imagine my surprise!!

You gotta be kidding;
“Australian factories, one in Western Sydney’s St Mary’s, made hundreds of thousands of landmines during the 1970s and 1980s, ..”

Fuck!!!!