Comments on: An alliance of violence http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/ Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:07:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Chris http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3212 Chris Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:02:58 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3212 David, it is the only incident mention by Jamail. Why you are not following that is a puzzle. David, it is the only incident mention by Jamail. Why you are not following that is a puzzle.

]]> By: Addamo http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3187 Addamo Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:03:48 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3187 A trend is based on a sizeable sampe of incidents. not just 2 occurences. Jamail has been proven right on many occasions. a yer before the white phsphorous news broke out, he reported on the reports that chemical weapons had been used in Fallujah and that the US were removing large ares of topsoil from affected areas. A trend is based on a sizeable sampe of incidents. not just 2 occurences. Jamail has been proven right on many occasions. a yer before the white phsphorous news broke out, he reported on the reports that chemical weapons had been used in Fallujah and that the US were removing large ares of topsoil from affected areas.

]]> By: David http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3186 David Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:24:30 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3186 You're not following along, Chris. It appears there are a number of incidents where factions in the Iraqi resistance invoked solidarity with the Palestinian resistance, and used it as justification for specific attacks. I'm wondering why we were never told this. It strikes me as interesting. I'm not particularly interested in whether the "trend" is accelerating or not, just why something as inflammatory as "Iraq and Palestine have the same destiny" was not reported in our media--even if it was only a single incident, as you claim. (Although how you can know it was a single incident totally escapes me. Are you posting from Iraq?) You’re not following along, Chris.

It appears there are a number of incidents where factions in the Iraqi resistance invoked solidarity with the Palestinian resistance, and used it as justification for specific attacks. I’m wondering why we were never told this. It strikes me as interesting.

I’m not particularly interested in whether the “trend” is accelerating or not, just why something as inflammatory as “Iraq and Palestine have the same destiny” was not reported in our media–even if it was only a single incident, as you claim.

(Although how you can know it was a single incident totally escapes me. Are you posting from Iraq?)

]]> By: Chris http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3184 Chris Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:54:56 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3184 Jamail listed one incident as his trend starter. It was compared to the two deadliest incidents in iraq at the time. No correlation. His theory, based on the information he provided, was incorrect. It appears he applied the blind pig theory and failed. Jamail listed one incident as his trend starter. It was compared to the two deadliest incidents in iraq at the time. No correlation. His theory, based on the information he provided, was incorrect.

It appears he applied the blind pig theory and failed.

]]> By: David http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3183 David Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:34:11 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3183 You mean Muqtada al-Sadr didn't make the statement, "From here I announce my solidarity with the genuine unity announced by Hezbollah general secretary Hassan Nasrallah with the mujahideen movement Hamas. Let them consider me their striking hand in Iraq whenever the need arises. As the martyr Sheikh Ahmed Yassin said, Iraq and Palestine have the same destiny"? No pamphlets were distributed at the scene of the Blackwater killings which declared the attack was carried out in the name of Yassin? Jamail is lying? You mean Muqtada al-Sadr didn’t make the statement, “From here I announce my solidarity with the genuine unity announced by Hezbollah general secretary Hassan Nasrallah with the mujahideen movement Hamas. Let them consider me their striking hand in Iraq whenever the need arises. As the martyr Sheikh Ahmed Yassin said, Iraq and Palestine have the same destiny”?

No pamphlets were distributed at the scene of the Blackwater killings which declared the attack was carried out in the name of Yassin?

Jamail is lying?

]]> By: Chris http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3178 Chris Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:14:04 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3178 Using Jamail's own example, it was shown that there is no tie-in. Now, if he would actually provide some semblance of proof rather than toss off a guess in the hopes that someone else will do the grunt work... Using Jamail’s own example, it was shown that there is no tie-in. Now, if he would actually provide some semblance of proof rather than toss off a guess in the hopes that someone else will do the grunt work…

]]> By: David http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3177 David Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:51:56 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3177 "not widely reported in the media, becasue they signifiy the ultimate failure of the Iraq invasion" I disagree that it has anything to do with a fear of reporting failure. I suspect it has everything to do with a fear of suggesting any tie-in to what's going on in the West Bank and Gaza. Don't you remember how Americans were told that 9/11 was caused by men who "envied their freedoms"? Most still believe that. “not widely reported in the media, becasue they signifiy the ultimate failure of the Iraq invasion”

I disagree that it has anything to do with a fear of reporting failure. I suspect it has everything to do with a fear of suggesting any tie-in to what’s going on in the West Bank and Gaza.

Don’t you remember how Americans were told that 9/11 was caused by men who “envied their freedoms”? Most still believe that.

]]> By: Addamo http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3167 Addamo Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:06:33 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3167 Certainyl there are many developments i nIraq which are not being widely reported in the media, becasue they signifiy the ultimate failure of the Iraq invasion. The Americans are in for a head-on collision with the Shi'ite majority, the very forces their invasion and occupation have brought to power. Certainyl there are many developments i nIraq which are not being widely reported in the media, becasue they signifiy the ultimate failure of the Iraq invasion.

The Americans are in for a head-on collision with the Shi’ite majority, the very forces their invasion and occupation have brought to power.

]]> By: David http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3156 David Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:40:16 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3156 Unlike Chris, I was surprised to see the explicit invocation of Israeli assassinations in the West Bank used to justify attacks against the U.S. in Iraq. (I'm not talking about a general hatred and distrust which I assume everyone recognizes is part of the blowback from a pro-Israel policy.) But I'm particularly interested in the media coverage angle: does anyone recall ANY media coverage of Muqtada al-Sadr's claim of solidarity with the Palestinians: "Let them consider me their striking hand in Iraq whenever the need arises. As the martyr Sheikh Ahmed Yassin said, Iraq and Palestine have the same destiny." If there was, I missed it. Maybe, like the motivations of the 9/11 bombers, it was considered too dangerous to report. Unlike Chris, I was surprised to see the explicit invocation of Israeli assassinations in the West Bank used to justify attacks against the U.S. in Iraq. (I’m not talking about a general hatred and distrust which I assume everyone recognizes is part of the blowback from a pro-Israel policy.)

But I’m particularly interested in the media coverage angle: does anyone recall ANY media coverage of Muqtada al-Sadr’s claim of solidarity with the Palestinians: “Let them consider me their striking hand in Iraq whenever the need arises. As the martyr Sheikh Ahmed Yassin said, Iraq and Palestine have the same destiny.”

If there was, I missed it. Maybe, like the motivations of the 9/11 bombers, it was considered too dangerous to report.

]]> By: Addamo http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3147 Addamo Fri, 31 Mar 2006 03:31:32 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2006/03/31/an-alliance-of-violence/#comment-3147 Chris, Smiths pointed out what actually took place according to the AFP. That you refuse to put 2 and 2 together, because it is not convenient to your agenda is not anyone's problem but yours. Evidently most onthis thread think your contributions are an annoyance. Educate yourself for once and read abtou Occam's Razor. This forum is ineed for adults, not petulant trolls like yourself who are determined to sabbotage any thread that shed's light on what you refuse to question. Chris,

Smiths pointed out what actually took place according to the AFP. That you refuse to put 2 and 2 together, because it is not convenient to your agenda is not anyone’s problem but yours. Evidently most onthis thread think your contributions are an annoyance.

Educate yourself for once and read abtou Occam’s Razor. This forum is ineed for adults, not petulant trolls like yourself who are determined to sabbotage any thread that shed’s light on what you refuse to question.

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