Comments on: Peace is possible

By: Chris

Chris — Sun, 02 Apr 2006 12:44:44 +0000

History appears to have proven that any Palestinian agreement is worthless shortly after it is signed.

By: viva peace

viva peace — Sun, 02 Apr 2006 05:22:40 +0000

“Somethuing ‘extraordinary’?” Oh dear. Me thinks somebody really needs to get out more.

Why would anybody expect Israel to negotiate anything with Hamas in 1997? Hamas was merely a terrorist organization, with no formal political role. By your reasoning, the Palestinian Authority, headed by Yasser Arafat, had no legitimacy, and it was Hamas with whom Israel was obliged to negotiate.

So are you arguing that the whole Oslo process, Camp David, Madrid, etc. are all null and void ab initio? Of course the implication becomes that the current PA, led by Hamas, is equally null and void.

By: Chris

Chris — Sun, 02 Apr 2006 04:42:28 +0000

You put it best when you said:

Israel would have thrown it out, after spitting on it.

Yes I did. It sums up Israel’s track record on deals with terrorists.

By: orang

orang — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 20:36:44 +0000

This perpetuation of bollocks and associated myths continues anabated. When have you ever heard any “news” about the Israeli elections and the so called centrist Kadima party without hearing the word peace? Pretty soon anyone who says the Kadima party are a bunch of thieving, land hungry cock-heads - just like any other party in Israel, you’ll be asked to leave the room.

By: Addamo

Addamo — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:26:27 +0000

Yes I totally agree Edward,

This deacedes long search for a partner in peace has been a joke from the beginning. After the 1991 Iraq war, the PLO were completely isolated. Israel had a choice to deal with either the Palestinian leadership or the PLO, and obviously chose to negotiate with the PLO because they knew they could have things their way.

Nonetheless, Arafat stood his ground and the mtyh that came out of those negotiations was that the Palestininas were offerd a golden opportunity and turned it down. What bollocks!!

By: edward squire

edward squire — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:18:10 +0000

Addamo, As I established earlier, even if HAMAS were as generous as is possible - offering all of the historical lands of Palestine to the Israeli government and destroying all their weapons, according to Chris, the Israeli government STILL wouldn’t take it because they/Chris doesn’t “recognise” HAMAS. Thus, you’ll get no-where with Chris on the 30-year cease fire offer.

By: Addamo

Addamo — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:51:18 +0000

Hamas, a terrrorist organization, was in no position to offer anything. Israel would have thrown it out, after spitting on it.

That’s pure conjecture. Efraim Halev, who is far better informaed and positined that you to decide the validity of the offer, obviously copnsidre it significant for him to write abotu it in his book.

What this shows is that Israel has a pattern of udermining peace initiatives, because these would lead to events that would force them to giove up what they are not prepared to give up.

You put it best when you said:

Israel would have thrown it out, after spitting on it.

Which sums up Israel’s track record to any diplomacy.

By: Chris

Chris — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 04:59:32 +0000

The israeli government was already providing municipal services when the named gentlemen came into power.

Hamas, a terrrorist organization, was in no position to offer anything. Israel would have thrown it out, after spitting on it.

By: Addamo

Addamo — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 04:35:00 +0000

Captain,

You adn Chris can continue with your trash talk all you like, bu tthe fact remains that
Efraim Halevy, who headed Israel’s Mossad foreign intelligence service, aknowledges that Hamas offered Israel a 30-year truce in 1997 and Israel fucked it up.

So much for the argument that Israel are the opnly ones serious about peace.

By: orang

orang — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 23:42:22 +0000

As the rest of the world was being propagandized to believe that Sharon The Undead was a man of peace, if Begin and Shamir were men of peace and eventually learned to collect garbage, then why not Hamas. True, a few of their older and perhaps wiser former terrorists were actually assassinated by the glorious Israeli army - (the 4th most powerful in the world by their account-talk about breast beating, but in imminent danger of being driven into the sea by a couple of Kalashnikovs, a Molotov cocktail and three rocks, but I digress, ) Well I’m for give peace a chance with “centrist” Kadima (HAW HAW!!!) As they get the green light from bigW and the little fib embellishing Piano Player to do whatever the hell it wants, there’s one thing for certain, it will be a 3rd rate pantomime with very bad acting- but it won’t be for peace.