Here is some rare testimony of abuse by the Iraqi National Guard allegedly overseen by US soldiers.
After all, we now know that the US government openly and shamelessly tortures people for “evidence” against terrorism. Furthermore, many conservatives and moral pygmies support it. I look forward to them shrieking the loudest when an ingenious “enemy” subjects US soldiers to the same treatment.
When this kind of behaviour is condoned, we are no better than “them.”






The blog entry you link to which supposedly demonstrates the way in which conservatives support torture does not argue that torture should be permitted at all. In fact, it argues exactly the opposite. Anyone who has paid any attention at all to Andrew Sullivan’s blogging and essays will know that he has been one of the foremost critics of the Bush administration’s conduct in this area. You have either simply googled ‘conservative’ and ‘torture’, and linked to the first page that came up, or read the blog entry and completely misunderstood it–although it’s meaning is hardly difficult to grasp. Either way, it hardly reflects well on you as a journalist.
Aaron- I think the link was to highlight David Horowitz’s rationalisations contained within Sullivans blog entry!!
Indeed Aaron,
In your rush to defend Sullivan, you have overlooked what Ant was alluding to. Besides, Sullivan is not a conservative.
Umm, I think you will find that Sullivan does consider himself a conservative. His attacks on conservative targets simply reflect his belief that most of those who call themselves conservative these days have betrayed core conservative principles such as individual freedom and limited government. He holds that Oakeshottian principles of scepticism and caution in politics have been overthrown by a cadre of radicals intent on trashing the constitution, demolishing legal restrictions on executive power, and discarding the principles of general decency.
Also, my post was in reference to Antony’s second link. I did not read the first link. Read the second link and see if you can find any reason why Antony would choose to exemplify conservative support for torture with this blog post.
It looks to me like Antony got the links the wrong way round.