Comments on: Delusions of the “liberal” media http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2007/07/30/delusions-of-the-%e2%80%9cliberal%e2%80%9d-media/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:57:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: al loomis http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2007/07/30/delusions-of-the-%e2%80%9cliberal%e2%80%9d-media/#comment-204553 al loomis Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:22:13 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2007/07/30/delusions-of-the-%e2%80%9cliberal%e2%80%9d-media/#comment-204553 if you imagine there are 'good' politicians perhaps you think that some hyenas are better than others? america's history has been pretty consistent and much less glorious than american history texts would suggest. it's the natural result of power without restraint. by all means get rid of bush, but things won't get better while americans think they have a right to oil inconveniently placed under other people's land. instead of backing democrats, struggle for democracy. you certainly ain't got it yet. if you imagine there are ‘good’ politicians perhaps you think that some hyenas are better than others?

america’s history has been pretty consistent and much less glorious than american history texts would suggest. it’s the natural result of power without restraint. by all means get rid of bush, but things won’t get better while americans think they have a right to oil inconveniently placed under other people’s land.

instead of backing democrats, struggle for democracy. you certainly ain’t got it yet.

]]> By: Debra Carr http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2007/07/30/delusions-of-the-%e2%80%9cliberal%e2%80%9d-media/#comment-204237 Debra Carr Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:17:33 +0000 http://antonyloewenstein.com/blog/2007/07/30/delusions-of-the-%e2%80%9cliberal%e2%80%9d-media/#comment-204237 Excellent summary here, the way some members of the Beltway media kowtow to the likes of Hillary Clinton and Joseph Lieberman is pathetic. As you say, surveys after the debate consistently demonstrate that the public most agrees with Barack Obama, and with good reason-- the alternative, supported by George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton, has led to a catastrophic defeat in a Middle Eastern War that has caused permanent damage to the United States and probably ended our days as a significant power on the world scene. And the worst hasn't even hit the fan yet, and won't until the US and Britain withdraw in defeat and humiliation. Although I've been a steady Democrat for many years, I won't vote for Hillary Clinton if she's nominated, I'll just find a good Third Party to support. If it means a Republican in the Oval Office for another 4 years? Who cares? At least we'll then have a very strong shot at electing a genuine progressive in the 2012 election-- not a warmongering, corporatist, labor-hating DLC shill like Hillary Rodham Clinton. What a miserable dilemma the Democratic Party has put itself in, by placing such a repugnant, distasteful figure such as Hillary Clinton in such a public position for such an important position. There's a reason that Barack Obama and even John Edwards consistently trounce Hillary Clinton in national polls of all voters and are the only 2 Democrats actually competitive against the top Republicans-- Hillary Clinton's negatives are far too high. Even her fellow Democrats are furious at her. It would be idiotic strategy for the Democrats to nominate someone like this. Excellent summary here, the way some members of the Beltway media kowtow to the likes of Hillary Clinton and Joseph Lieberman is pathetic.

As you say, surveys after the debate consistently demonstrate that the public most agrees with Barack Obama, and with good reason– the alternative, supported by George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton, has led to a catastrophic defeat in a Middle Eastern War that has caused permanent damage to the United States and probably ended our days as a significant power on the world scene. And the worst hasn’t even hit the fan yet, and won’t until the US and Britain withdraw in defeat and humiliation.

Although I’ve been a steady Democrat for many years, I won’t vote for Hillary Clinton if she’s nominated, I’ll just find a good Third Party to support. If it means a Republican in the Oval Office for another 4 years? Who cares? At least we’ll then have a very strong shot at electing a genuine progressive in the 2012 election– not a warmongering, corporatist, labor-hating DLC shill like Hillary Rodham Clinton. What a miserable dilemma the Democratic Party has put itself in, by placing such a repugnant, distasteful figure such as Hillary Clinton in such a public position for such an important position.

There’s a reason that Barack Obama and even John Edwards consistently trounce Hillary Clinton in national polls of all voters and are the only 2 Democrats actually competitive against the top Republicans– Hillary Clinton’s negatives are far too high. Even her fellow Democrats are furious at her. It would be idiotic strategy for the Democrats to nominate someone like this.

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