Radio New Zealand interview on spying in the Pacific and independent journalism

Following the recent publication in Declassified Australia of a great investigation on Australian and New Zealand spying across the Pacific by reporter Nicky Hager, we were both interviewed on Radio New Zealand on the Pacific Waves show that broadcasts across New Zealand and the Pacific:

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Nicky Hager was also interviewed by ABC Radio National’s Pacific Beat program.