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Fearing the worst

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Another “terrorist” killed by Israel in Lebanon. More photos and info here and here. In the current crisis, it’s vital to study non-Western news sources.

Meanwhile, Robert Fisk examines the price being paid by the Lebanese people:

You could see the Israeli missiles coming through the clouds of smoke, hurtling like thunderbolts into the apartment blocks of Ghobeiri, the crack of the explosions so loud that my ears are still singing hours later as I write this report.

Yes, I suppose you could call this a “terrorist” target, for here in these mean, fearful streets is – or rather was – the Hizbollah headquarters. Even the movement’s propaganda television station, Al-Manar, lay a pancaked ruin in the street, its broadcasts still being transmitted from the station’s bunker beneath the rubble. But what of the tens of thousands of people who live here?

The few who were not lying in their basements ran shrieking through the streets – not gunmen, but women with screaming children, families holding suitcases, desperate to leave the heaps of broken buildings, entire apartment blocks smashed to bits, the roadways covered in smashed balconies and torn electrical wires. “You don’t have to help the resistance,” Sayed Hassan Nasrallah, the Hizbollah leader, told the Lebanese on television last night. “The resistance is on the front line and the Lebanese are behind them.”

UPDATE: For CNN, Lebanese deaths don’t matter.

36 comments ↪
  • Captain

    Ant do you think you could put up some pictures of Israeli dead. Sorry, I forgot. Jews don't parade their dead like that.

  • smiths

    theyre you go again captain, confusing israeli with jew,
    even the right wing media can leaves out the racist words that you use,
    israel has attacked lebanon, hizbollah is shelling israel,
    there simply is no need to talk about 'jews'

    racist to the core

  • john ryan

    What joy for you Captain more dead Arabs,just think of the hatred and revenge the Israeli Govt and its backers are storing up for the next generation

  • Captain

    Hmmm using the word Jew is racist? I should tell my Rabbi about that.

    No of course lets not talk about the Muslim attack on a Jewish country. It wouldn't mean anything at all. Iran, a theocracy is funding and arming Hezbollah so of course we can't talk about Iran calling for the end of Israel nor in talking about the Holocaust as a myth.

    John Ryan, typical projection. It is you who is happy both that Israel is counting its dead and being criticised for self defence. Perhaps you could tell us about the generations of hatred towards Jews that preceded the creation of Israel.

  • viva peace

    I agree that the price being paid is very high and awful. But surely the time has well passed when Israelis must pay for the dysfunction of Muslims and their terrorist avatars? Perhaps this will energize the Arab street sufficiently to rise up and slaughter the Islamist fascists?

  • Gustov_deleft

    I think that it's time that we all stopped being held to ransom by a dysfunctional Israeli foreign policy.

    Let's hold the terrorists accountable by all means. But for the sake of humanity, Israel must be reigned in.

    I believe that if the average American knew that their taxes were used by Israel to build weapons, including nuclear warheads which threaten ALL humanity, they would be outraged.

  • Captain

    And Gustov, do you think we should be outraged at Iran's nuclear weapons? Should they be reigned in for sponsoring terrorism around the world?

  • Addamo_01

    Ant do you think you could put up some pictures of Israeli dead. Sorry, I forgot. Jews don’t parade their dead like that.

    Why Captain? Would it make you feel better?

    Does a dead Israeli look better than a Palestianian one?

    The picture is of a dead child. How many Israeli children have been killed in teh latest attacks?

    Does it matter that the kill ratioj is more than 10:1 or is it the taking part that really matters?

    Should they be reigned in for sponsoring terrorism around the world?

    Are you sayin that they shouldn't they be reigned in for sponsoring terrorism around the world?

  • Gustov_deleft

    Absolutely Captain. The Iranian President is some sort of messianic lunatic.

    Religion is lunacy, Captain. Fanatic Islam's claim that killing civilians is justified by Allah is profoundly evil. The Christian Right seems to practice a type of religion which appears to be in stark contrast to my understanding of what Christ actually spoke about, and only support Israel because they believe that this will lead to Christ's second coming – But don't worry, Jews will be given the opportunity to convert just prior to being cast into the fiery pits of hell!!

    Anyway, to get back to your point, Iran's nuclear ambitions should be kept in check, absolutely. My criticism of Israel is that operates well outside the boundaries that other countries are expect to remain within. Plus they have nuclear weapons paid for by the American tax payer.

  • Addamo_01

    Viva,

    You are the perfect evidenc of how indoctrinatino and ideology can completely mut rational thought, even in someone educated like yourself.

    But surely the time has well passed when Israelis must pay for the dysfunction of Muslims and their terrorist avatars?

    Let's see here.

    Israel boasts abtou being a democracy and how that sets it apart from it's neighbours. The Palestinians are the only Arab democracy in the Middle East, yet when they excercise teh democratci rigth, Israel witholds the money they need to survive as a society, and yet you have the gall to call them dysfunctional?

    Israel bombs Paelstrinains on a Gaza beach. It lies about it and tries to pin the blame on Hamas until evindence proves them responsible. Yet you have the gall to call Palestianians dysfunctional?

    Hamas grab an IDF soldier and wisk him away (which the IDF have done for deades). Israel decide the best way to recue this IDF soldier is to collectively punich al lof Gaza, yet you have the gall to call Palestianians dysfunctional?

    Israel claim that Hamas are firign rockets at them, yet Israel has been pounding Gaza with ten times the number of shells with ten times the number of Palestinain fatalities and you have the gall to call Palestianians dysfunctional?

    Israel attacks Lebannon. Then Hezbollah grab two more IDF soldiers and Israel then argues that it is destroying Lebannon to rescue those soldiers. Yet you have the gall to call Palestianians dysfunctional?

    Perhaps this will energize the Arab street sufficiently to rise up and slaughter the Islamist fascists?

    Or perhaps Israel will suffer the same huminliation they suffered at the hands of Hezboillah lst time.

    It's interesting that neither Bush or Olmert have served in the military and that both are failing to have learned from history.

  • Captain

    Gustov, which other countries have Islamist threats from the North in the form of Hezbollah, armed with tens of thousands of missiles and Hamas, another islamist force to its south and West both with the explicit intention of destroying its neighbour?

    Islamist enemies aim towards and end of time conclusion. They are not interested in territory other than how it forms part of theological goals. They kidnap, use suicide bombers and then ask for the UN protection. Israel must show force to stop them. They have badly misjudged Israel's restraint and preference for dialogue as a sign of weakness.

    When you show me another country that continues to face existential threat and continues to have to argue for its very existence then we can start making valid comparisons. Until then I think that you have no reasonable basis on which to compare Israel.

    Gustav, can you show me the receipts for the nuclear weapons and how they were paid for by the US?

  • Addamo_01

    Viva,

    Here are some quotes from recent interview Hitchens did. I take my hat off to him on this occasion. He makes a lto fo sense:

    As long as things like the murders today, or the kidnappings recently go on, and as long as the wall continues to be built, and takes away even more and more Palestinian land which is illegal, and as long as the settlements continue to be built, which is also illegal, and the Jewish-only roads across the Palestinian territories are…both sides are going to assume that they're completely justified in what they do.

    The United States of America is the patron and armorer of one side in this dispute, and was for some time, the patron and paymaster also of the Arafat regime in Gaza. And it has been stated repeatedly by the President, at the United Nations, and before Congress and elsewhere, that it is the policy of the United States to ensure that there be two states with equal rights, and self-determination for both sides. That's the problem. At the present moment, that is the note that is not heard in this discussion. It appears that the U.S. government has more or less nothing to say except in commenting and calling for restraint on each side, day by day. That's absolutely useless.

    Mr. Olmert, who could have said this at any time in the last 15-20 years, as could Mr. Sharon or Mr. Rabin, said that during the lifetime of his administration, he wants to be able to say where the Israeli borders ought to be. Or why hasn't he said so before? There's no other state in the world, as far as I know, that refuses to say where it thinks its frontiers ought to be. Why should we be kept guessing on this point? You try living under the occupation of someone who says I might or might not withdraw, depending on this or that. I'm not going to tell you how large I think the Jewish state ought to be. This is actually insufferable.

  • Gustov_deleft

    When you show me another country that continues to face existential threat and continues to have to argue for its very existence then we can start making valid comparisons. Until then I think that you have no reasonable basis on which to compare Israel.

    I'll just let that stand there for you to reflect on Captain.

    Please don't be deliberately obtuse about Israel's nuclear weapons. Israel only exists at the pleasure of the United States, and you know it.

    I understand that you're some sort of therapist, Captain. If you had a client sitting in your office describing the turmoil in their life, but stating that they in no way contributed to the problem, what would be your advice to them? Because you're that client. Your refusal to accept that Israel has contributed to the chaos around it, demonstrates a total lack of objectivity.

    Incidentally, I'm watching the war live on TV at the moment, and the latest Lebanese death toll is at least 174, most being civilians. So much for a clinical strike.

  • Addamo_01

    They are not interested in territory other than how it forms part of theological goals.

    You mean as in a Greater Israel? As in illegally expanding settlements and building wall outside of recoignised demarcation lines?

    They kidnap, use suicide bombers and then ask for the UN protection. Israel must show force to stop them.

    Stop tham liek they did on the Gaza beach? As opposed to Israel, which kidnaps (by the thousands), use state of the art weaponry on civilian neighborhoods – including banned weapons and flout dozens of UN resolutions.

    They have badly misjudged Israel’s restraint and preference for dialogue as a sign of weakness.

    Bullshit. It is Israel that has badly misjudged the situation. Once this become a guerilla war, Israel will face the same outcome they did in 1996. Israel has not won a conflict since 1973, and their losing streak is set to continue.

    When you show me another country that continues to face existential threat and continues to have to argue for its very existence then we can start making valid comparisons

    I can come up with one right away. It’s called Palestine. Ever heard of it?

    Gustav, can you show me the receipts for the nuclear weapons and how they were paid for by the US?

    You are a moron Captain. To this day you continue to deny Israel even has nukes. Cna you come up with receipts that show Hezbollah is getting any assitance whatsoever from Iran?

  • Addamo_01

    Gustov

    So much for a clinical strike.

    that is assuming civilians are not being targetted. What makes you think that's not the case?

  • Captain

    Greater Israel? I wonder how you reconcile that with almost every past Israeli leader offering territory in return for peace. Whether you agree with their offer, they were ceding land. With all Jews now out of Gaza, you can hardly talk about Greater Israel type aspirations. These are merely antisemitic fantasies.

    Gustov, there is a subtle difference between neurotic struggles which are entirely internal and threats which come in the form of Iranian missiles and suicide bombers. I will let you meditate on that slight difference you patronising prick.

    Further its very had to have 'clinical' strikes. Never a term I like. There is nothing clinical about war. A war that Syria, Iran and Lebanese indifference have brought to the region.

    Israel did not bomb a beach in Gaza, it was probably Hamas killing their own for publicity. Show me the banned weapons adddummbbooo or crawl back under your rock. The pals have an extensive history of lying about such things.

    No, never heard of Palestine. It was never ever a country. Ever heard of the palestinian language? perhaps you have heard of the palestinian history before arafuck? where are the pals mentioned in the bible? or for that matter any credible historical text? Lets face it, the pal people with the keys they trot out for journalists for the houses that never existed are an invention of the arab world.

    Fortunately addumbbooo, Israel is extremely united, left and right, in face of the islamist bullies who kidnap, murder, hide behind their women and children and then cry crocodile tears to the UN.

    Oh and addumbboo, I don't need proof about iranian missiles, you seem to be the only one on the fucken planet, including the iranians who seem to doubt this.

  • Addamo

    Anyone who looked at the reality on the ground would know that Israel were not ceding land, but giving with one hand and taking with the other and a greater scale. While Israel gave up Gaza, it was expanding settlements in the West Bank. Israel’s leaders were not interested in peace, so much as security. They are two different things.

    Evince has proven almost beyond any doubt that it was Israel that bombed the beach in Gaza. The shrapnel inside one of the women’s bodies came from Israeli shell’s. To insist this was a self inflicted wound is about as credible as insisting that the rockets hitting Israel from Gaza were sent by Mossad teams to create a Cuausus Belli.

    Show me the banned weapons adddummbbooo or crawl back under your rock.

    You are an imbecile Captain., You make platitudes and generalisations left right and centre, then when hit with argument your don’t like you demand unequivocal evidence. How about you show us evidence that the bomb on the Gaza beach came from Hamas you scum bag.

    The pals have an extensive history of lying about such things.

    That’ right. Israeli’s never lie because they are so pure of heart. Like the time they hit the Liberty and claimed it was someone else, and when that was proven to be a lie, that they didn’t see the oversized US flag?

    No, never heard of Palestine. It was never ever a country.

    Exactly. And the aborigines were never a legitimate peope nor were teh American Indians, and those heathens got what they deservd eigth Captain? Just the way Israel has wanted it and intends to keep it.

    Ever heard of the palestinian language?

    Ever heard of an Israeli language?

    perhaps you have heard of the palestinian history before arafuck?

    And Israeli history before Ben Guiron?

    where are the pals mentioned in the bible?

    Now you are totally losing it you religious freak. So now the bible is a historical reference is it? The bible mention a place called Nazareth, but that doesn’t exist. Oooooooops

    Israel is extremely united, left and right, in face of the islamist bullies who kidnap, murder, hide behind their women and children and then cry crocodile tears to the UN.

    Sure they are, and so they should be. Good luck to them. Unlike cheers leaders for child klillers like yourself, I want to see both sides of the conflict succeed.
    As for kidnapping,. The Israeli’s are the world champions with 10,000 incarcerated prisoners. By Israel’s own admission, 1000 of those are only there because of administrative reasons. Do the Palestinians and Hezbollah have even 10% of that many Israelis in captivity? You make my arguments to easy for me.

    Remember, the terrorists are always the guys without the air force.

    Oh and addumbboo, I don’t need proof about iranian missiles,you seem to be the only one on the fucken planet, including the iranians who seem to doubt this

    Surely then Cpatain, the proof must be a no brainer to produce. Where is the proof Captain? What’s the matter poor Captain oh Captain? Can’t deliver? Is that what your mommy told you? That you are right because you say so but anything that challenges you padded cell reality needs to be proved by receipts?

  • Addamo

    Incidently,

    Let's consider Hamas and Hezbollah.

    Who created them?

    Hamas came into the main fold after the 1967 war thansk to Israel's backing.
    Hexbollah was formed after the 1982 invasino of Lebanon.

    So both are effectively the cratino of Israel!! Way to go. Israel is a terrorist sponsior!!

  • Addamo

    Oh and the latest lie of course is that Israel is going balistic because of captured Israeli soldiers.

  • smiths

    captain you really are mentally challenged,
    iran does not have nuclear weapons,
    iran has not attacked any other country,
    iran is a signatory to the NPT,
    israel has nuclear weapons,
    israel regularly invades other countries,
    israel has not signed the NPT,
    which bit of these simple facts cant you get?

  • Captain

    Iran does not have nuclear weapons: Iran lies about its nuclear capacity
    Iran does not attack other countries: Iran is an international sponsor of terrorism
    Iran as an Islamist state was created by a violence. Israel was created by the UN.
    Iran sponsored the Taliban, Hamas and Hezbollah. Israel sponsors science and the arts.
    Iran discriminates against its Christian and non Muslim populations. There is freedom and protection for all religions in Israel
    Iran has repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel. Israel has never called for the destruction of Iran.
    Iran is sponsoring the insurgency in Iraq.
    There is no freedom of press in Iran. There is complete freedom of press in Israel.
    There is no freedom of association in Iran. There is freedom of movement in Israel. Unless of course you are carrying weapons.
    There is no democracy or universal suffrage in Iran. Israel of course is a thriving democracy.

    You are just so blinded by hate that you can't reconcile that the arab world recjoices at every Jewish death. There is no Jewish corollory. This is about religion and nothing else. The Islamist countries have no tolerance for anything other than their fundamentalism.

    Which part of these simple facts do you not get?

  • viva peace

    Addamo

    This is an historic opportunity to flatten the Islamists once for and al. There is inprecedented agreement among the G-* and all Arab states, bar Syria, who enjoys the delightful ignomy outing itself as Iran's ally.

    The world needs to hold its nerve and make sure this time we prevail.

  • smiths

    honestly captain i think you need help,
    with such an inability to sift through bullshit i wonder how you cope in everyday life,

    no-one on earth thinks iran actually has nuclear weapons, you are in a wacko league all of your own

    and this line leaves me speechless
    "Iran sponsored the Taliban, Hamas and Hezbollah. Israel sponsors science and the arts."

    what a gold medal dickhead

  • JohD

    what a gold medal dickhead

    ROFLMAO!!!

  • orang

    Re: the CNN link to The Huffington Post, Antony, In hotel rooms for the last few days and routinely flick onto CNN. There is an eerie pantomime with the CNN reporting going on. Your "opinion" is being moulded by the likes of your Christiana Amanpours "on the ground". The "middle ground" or where one should base their judgements on is being created somewhere between the Likud and Right Wing Republicans. Yes there are civilians killed by the boys from Hezbollah heaving rockets around, but the response from Israel is taken as "normal". Oh yeah, Israel has a right to defend itself, and we don't want a ceasefire just yet because they haven't finished destroying the place. The fact that Australia, Europeans and others are very afraid that their citizens are in grave danger in Lebanon should give you a clue that they do not trust Israel, nor can predict who they will kill on an apparent whim.

  • Don Wigan

    "where are the pals mentioned in the bible? or for that matter any credible historical text?"

    How about Herodotus? If it's good enough for him to mention a Palestinian people in his history of the Persian Wars I think it's credible that they have a pretty long lineage.

    Another example if you want one, aside from the Romans naming the province Palestine, is over in Christendom where we were brought up on the story Jesus and the manger. Anthropologists have pointed out that the method of using livestock for warmth was not only commonplace then but is still practised by remote Palestinian peasants today. Suggests quite a bit of continuity.

  • Addamo_01

    Captain Maggot,

    Your desperation is becommign all to obvious.

    Iran does not have nuclear weapons: Iran lies about its nuclear capacity

    No evidence of any nuclear weapons program in Iran despite intrusive inspections. Israel has lied and continues to lie abtou it's nuclear arsenal.

    Iran does not attack other countries: Iran is an international sponsor of terrorism

    Israel does both of these to a greater degree that Iran.

    Iran as an Islamist state was created by a violence. Israel was created by the UN.

    Isreal was created by vilence (he Irgun) maintained by violence.

    Iran sponsored the Taliban, Hamas and Hezbollah. Israel sponsors science and the arts.

    Irgnorant bullshit Captain maggot. Iran and the Taliban are opponents.

    Iran discriminates against its Christian and non Muslim populations. There is freedom and protection for all religions in Israel

    Israel treates non Jews like second class citizens. Jews in Iran live under infinitely better conditions than Arabs in Israel.

    Iran has repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel. Israel has never called for the destruction of Iran.

    A false statement that was reecntly debunked, but maintained by Zionist extremists and Isreali shills.

    Iran is sponsoring the insurgency in Iraq.

    The US has created the insurgency in Iraq. The US has even turned to Iraq to help them stabilise Iraq.

    There is no freedom of press in Iran. There is complete freedom of press in Israel.

    The US is now blocking indepnedent reports comming out of the Middle East.
    http://cryptogon.com/2006_07_16_blogarchive.html#

    There is no freedom of association in Iran. There is freedom of movement in Israel. Unless of course you are carrying weapons.

    And Gaza is one big prison.

    There is no democracy or universal suffrage in Iran. Israel of course is a thriving democracy.

    NBone is Isrfael unless you are Jewish.

    Captain, it is you that is so so blinded by hate that you can’t reconcile that the Israel's shills, including you, are are recjoicing at every Lebanese death.

    What facts did you not understand?

  • Addamo_01

    Viva,

    This is an historic opportunity to flatten the Islamists once for and all

    I can almost feeeling you cringing as you typed that. In your heart fo hearts, you wnast to believe this, but surely the logical side of you knows this is never goign to be acieved.

    One doesn't even need to be familair with history to knwo that such a plan is destined to fail. Iraq and Afghanistan are two perfect examples of this flawed approach.

    The other day, a top Iraqis General said this: "We're Closer To The Beginning Than We Are To The End Of All This"…

    The best he could say was the the coaltiino weas not losing. So after three years, $300 billion, 2,500 American lives and countless Iraqi lives, the US are only breaking even in Iraq.

    In Afghanistan, the Taleban are backin business in a big way. This week they just took two towns and KArzai is talking about the return of Taleban policing.

    In the case of Hezbollah, if they were the local bike gang in a friendly neighbourhood, Israel's actions are akin to hitting the house next to the gangs headquarters in teh hope of somehow isilating the bike gang.

    Completely futile. Overnight, Israel has turned a country that was largely against Hezbollah, into being completely behind them. Lebanon will be completely radicalised by this and with each strike, Isarael is recruiting peple and support for them.

    Israel has no hope in hell of winning this, certainyl not from the air. IF they engag in a guerilla war, they will be sent back to Isrfael asw they did in 1996, with their tails between their legs.

    Israel are clearly counting on the US for support, otherwise they would never have started this in the first place, but the US has not enough boots to help in a ground war.

    So what it comes down to is, the onyl way Israel is goign to achieve their aims wil be through nuclear attack.

  • Addamo_01

    Incidently Viva,

    Your friends at DFAT, did they also believe that Iraq would be a cakewalk, that the US would be greeted as liberators and that we would find wall to wall WMD there? Did they also believe the insugency were ded endeers in 2004, and in it's last throes in 2005?

  • Addamo_01

    One more thign Viva,

    Is your ID supposed to be inoric or did you lose a bet? You really shoudl shance it to Viva Genocide.

  • Addamo_01

    You are right Captain,

    I was wrong to make that statement. I am relieved to know that at the very least, you are offended by the killing.

  • Captain

    Don: You mean Philistines. There is no historical reference to palestinians in ancient historical texts.

  • Captain

    Oh and addummmbooo, stop putting words in my mouth. I am neither celebrating lebanese deaths nor am I hand wringing. It is a fact of war for which the Lebanese themselves, the Syrians and Iranians are responsible.

  • Addamo

    It is a fact of war for which the Lebanese themselves, the Syrians and Iranians are responsible.

    The only fact is that the war started with 7 Palesitians on a Gaz abeach being shelled by Israel, whcih motivated a aresponse from Hamas, which ellicted a reponse from Israel, which ellicted a reponse from Hamas, which resulted in a insane response from Israel.

    The fact is that Olmert is lying about what Israel are tryign to achieve, He sayd he wasnts th erturn fo the IDF soldiers who werr captured by Hezbollah. Insted of negotating a prisoner exhange – as Israel has often done with success – he is insitign on bmbing Lebanon back to 1980.

    Thsi is Israel's cal, not Syria's and not Irans.

    Those are the fact.

  • Captain

    NBone is Isrfael unless you are Jewish.

    Is that English or Arabic?

  • Don Wigan

    "There is no historical reference to palestinians in ancient historical texts."

    I'd suggest you read or reread Herodotus, Captain. I can always reread it myself, but my memory of it is less than two years old. It stayed in my mind because another pro-IDF troll, Voice of Sanity, was spouting the same proganda at the time.

    It makes a nonsense of the claim that the Palestinians have no history – and as I mentioned the Jesus story and the continuity of using livestock for warmth in households also confirms their antiquity.