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8 Responses to “It exists”

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• Suze

  30 August 2006 at 8:21 am

  What tripe- attacking pronunciation, and arguing the margins instead of addressing the issue.
  Interestingly two members of the AIPAC lobby have just been indicted under the espionage act for obtaining classified defense info from the Pentagon.
• Glenn Condell

  30 August 2006 at 10:25 am

  Milbank is a hack; which is why he’s done so well over there. Dig the barely suppressed teeth-baring contempt. Mearsheimer/Walt have started the conversation there as Ant has done here, and those rusted into their sinecures by virtue of their submission to the Lobby (among other power structures) are getting nervous and flailing about with graceless, scattergun attacks like this. It is a good sign.
• Addamo_01

  30 August 2006 at 10:50 am

  Yes Dana,

  Let’s ingnore that AIPAC is urging the U.S. to shut down an Iranian News Web site in the US.

  http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/objects/pages/PrintArticleEn.jhtml?itemNo=755379

  Or that this documnetary was aired on C-Span this month:

  Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy
  http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14752.htm
• Addamo_01

  30 August 2006 at 3:21 pm

  Guys,

  You really have to watch this C-Span presentation. Walt and Mearsheimer both give superb presenations post Lebanon. Mearsheimer’s presenation itself is a massive indictement on the power of the Israeli lobby.
• Ian

  30 August 2006 at 6:57 pm

  Baztab’s report claimed that the soldiers had admitted that Israel planned a military attack on Hezbollah in September or October, and the kidnapping had foiled this plan.

  Based on this report and other information published on the site, AIPAC concluded that Baztab, which is supported by an American server, has ties with a terrorist organization

  Um…if Baztab knew something that only terrorists holding the IDF soldiers could know, then doesn’t that mean the claim of “a military attack on Hezbollah in September or October” must be true?

  For that matter, how does AIPAC know its true? Did they take part in the planning, perhaps?

  Should we therefore conclude that AIPAC is involved in war crimes?

  Or were they simply given a warning of the impending war crime so they could prepare the spin?

  So many questions, so few likely truthful answers! SIGH!!
• Suze

  30 August 2006 at 10:08 pm

  Um…if Baztab knew something that only terrorists holding the IDF soldiers could know, then doesn’t that mean the claim of “a military attack on Hezbollah in September or October” must be true?

  Excuse my ignorance but couldn’t Baztab have got it from Hezballah’s broadcast service anyway? It’s available on the web and its the kind of thing Hezballah would have been pretty keen to broadcast I would think- they’re hardly likely to keep that kind of info under wraps?
• Suze

  30 August 2006 at 10:12 pm

  Actually Milbank was obviously reporting on that Cair forum in your link Addamo- he reports the Wolfowitz question- but not Walt’s full answer- classic selective reporting totally free of context. What a steaming load of biased BS.
• Ian

  31 August 2006 at 5:14 pm

  Excuse my ignorance but couldn’t Baztab have got it from Hezballah’s broadcast service anyway? It’s available on the web and its the kind of thing Hezballah would have been pretty keen to broadcast I would think

  Possibly, in which case you’d have to assume that the AIPAC believes anyone who visits the Hezbollah site is forging a tie with a “terrorist organization”

  In which case I’m glad I’ve never gone there. I can do without a AFP/ASIO Control Order!