ABCTV News 24's The Drum on asylum seekers and Indonesia

I appeared last Friday on ABCTV News 24’s The Drum (video here) talking principally about the reality of asylum seekers and why Australia’s policy towards them is based on cruelty and not compassion. In summary, I’ve long argued that Australia, as a rich nation, is making a choice to punish refugees in remote detention camps or on Pacific islands instead… of taking responsibility for the relatively few people who arrive here by boat.

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